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HP is STUPID......

OK, I have in the shop now an HP Pavilion a310n desktop..... it came in for performance issues.

Now, this thing is no speed demon, it's a 2.7GHz Celeron with 512MB of ram and integrated Intel Extreme Graphics (i845 chipset), so yeah, it's a slug.

It has other issues.... the disk is a bit fragmented, and it has Norton IS 2006 (which is a bloated POS) but that still doesn't explain why it took 90 seconds to log on.....

Her spyware scan came back clean.... ditto for the virus scan.

The CPU heatsink was clean, so no clock throttling issues.

The problem was that HP enabled compression in the Windows folder BY DEFAULT! This thing isn't hurting for disk space.... it has an 80GB drive and all she uses it for is TurboTax, some pics and email. She has like 60GB free.

Performance should be good after the OS decompresses itself. :p

Once that's done, a defrag will be done and SP3 is going in. Then she can do the Norton 2008 update..... NIS 2006 and 2007 sucked so bad that the upgrade to 2008 is FREE for owners of NIS 2006 and 2007.

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I would do a few registry tweaks, empty the prefetch and defrag the MBR make sure the MFT is in check.

HP isn't the only company that does stupid crap like that. I've seen a few Acers and aOpen systems with the same crap enabled.
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Registry tweaks done.... clear prefetch option enabled in CCleaner.

OS has been decompressed, it's MUCH faster. JKdefrag running now..... as suspected, Windows Defrag lied about the fragmentation, the freespace fragmentation is obscene. (Windows Defrag doesn't touch freespace by the way)
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ive had my hp since 2001 and it still runs decent for its age
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I do local computer repair, and youd be surprised at the things I see. Some people go years without defragmenting, most dont even know what it is. Then theres the typical person who clicks on every pop up, and ends up with trojans, viruses, the likes. And then theres the dirty computers, where as soon as you open it, so much dust comes out that youd think Jafar and Aladdin might come with it.
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Just a bit of advice, get rid of norton or mcaffee. they are both pretty un reliable. I stick with AVG free edition and have never had any problems with it. Norton has a bad habit of catching itself as a virus when it wants to update automatically, and its a pain in the *ss when it comes to removing it from your hard drive. This is just my opinion but it might help you.
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AVG is very nice, as is NOD32. Both good AV programs, that seem to always stay under the radar. But alas, I dont use neither anymore because I feel Ive lost a need for an AV. Ive spent the last 10 months virus free, so why slow down my computer?
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AVG is very nice, as is NOD32. Both good AV programs, that seem to always stay under the radar. But alas, I dont use neither anymore because I feel Ive lost a need for an AV. Ive spent the last 10 months virus free, so why slow down my computer?
Because AVG doesn't suck up 50% of your system resources like Norton and Mcaffee do???



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JKDefrag is screwed up, I tried it once on a few systems and made things worse. I use DiskKeeper instead.
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...And then theres the dirty computers, where as soon as you open it, so much dust comes out that youd think Jafar and Aladdin might come with it.
Don't forget my favorite (sic) dirty PCs...

The ones that belong to smokers... and have been smoked around for years... and have a smelly smoke/dust residue on everything inside...

Just about makes me puke anytime I open up one of those fockers to work on it...
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I smoke so it doesn't bother me lol. Now what I hate is dust that builds up on the fans. I tell my clients/customers to wipe off the dust on the exterior fan vents when they clean/dust their desk/work area.
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- I'm curious if anyone else does this - dryer sheet over the fan port (s) - We have the zoo at the house - 3 1/2 cats and a dog, - dislike my heatsink having a bigger goatee than me.....really havent seen a heat issue and no more hairs in the box. It does get the nice smokers ring LOL!
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I've used a used dryer sheet before as a filter. If it was a new one right out of the box there would be air flow.

I remember seeing on xoxide.com some re-usable fan filters.
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I wouldn't install SP3. I had nothing but trouble with it. I had to reformat and reinstall Windows. Some more RAM might help and check the bios to see what the FSB is set at, it might be set slower than the installed RAM.
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