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Won't boot from HDD without system disk

Hey guys, I just got a new laptop (Toshiba Qosmio F50-Q551) and there's an issue when booting. I need a Vista (64) disk in the optical drive to get it to boot to the hard drive. It boots fine if the disk is in there, but without the disk it says "Operating System not found". This only works with a Vista 64 disk, any other boot disk gets booted normally. In the bios it recognizes the HDD, but the only option in the boot device list is the optical drive. If I turn on the LAN in the bios it will try to boot from the network until I put a system disk in. Then if I don't boot from the disk it will go to the hard drive. I've run the Vista startup repair thingy but it said everything was fine, so I was thinking it might be a bios problem. This actually happened right out of the box. I had to put a VIsta disk in the optical drive and then when the computer booted it asked me which version of Vista I wanted to use (32 or 64). I chose 64 and it seemed to work fine, but it still wouldn't boot.

Do you guys have any input? I'd be really grateful because I really don't want to bring a Vista disk everywhere I take the laptop. I started a System Restore that should bring it back to out-of-the-box state. I'm hoping that will work, but I'd appreciate any thoughts.

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Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T9400
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium (SP1, 32-bit)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium (SP1, 64-bit) (both are included, but you choose which to use when you start it up)
4GB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz SDRAM
320GB HDD (5400rpm)
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You have two ways to do this.

1. Return the laptop for another.
2. Flash the BIOS.

I would try flashing the BIOS and if that fails I would just return the laptop.
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It's been dual-booted with a 32-bit and a 64-bit Vista? Check the boot sequence in BIOS, I always use 1 USB, 2 CD, 3 HDD. I think maybe they dorked something and it needs the bootloader on the cd to start up. To be totally honest, I would send it back, or if you want to void your warranty, just reformat and only put 32-bit on. 64-bit software is still in the works in most cases. In theory, most if not all 32-bit software should run in 64-bit environment, but we all know Windows is a lot less than the theoretical results. Unless you have a specific need for 64, there's no need for it.

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Now that I'm thinking about it, FIRST boot from the cd into the repair utility, and log onto the 32-bit vista if you have a choice.
type the commands "fixmbr" and "fixboot" at the command line (separately, but I'm sure you know that).
after that type "chkdsk /p /r" to check for any other system file and boot errors
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Best of luck! post back or pm me if you need more advice.
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It's not as bad as you think if you are a computer GURU

What I am interpeting is that this was owned by someone who may had it set up ( Or may attempted to set it up for... ) for a dual O/S and may had some problems, and also may had it for plugging into a Network system. The HDD Master Boot Record ( MBR ) is seeing instructions to look for the system that was there at one time, and now is not.

I am enclosing a site which may help define your problems if you are running Vista, also XP can do the same thing. I think 32 and 64 bit is certainly a challenge.

Dual boot for Vista 32bit & 64bit


Vista 32-bit + 64-bit dual-boot catastrophe - The NeoSmart Forums


give these sites a try may help unconfuse things.



BTW I am a IT Graduate Cleveland Institute of Electronics 2009 AAS IT Mgt. and a proud owner of a 2002 Dodge Intrepid,

Online Distance Learning or Education - Cleveland Institute of Electronics
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It's not as bad as you think if you are a computer GURU




BTW I am a IT Graduate Cleveland Institute of Electronics 2009 AAS IT Mgt. and a proud owner of a 2002 Dodge Intrepid,

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you seem to advertise yourself on all your threads. Found it funny that you even provided a link to your online degree. May I suggest you buy a banner on this website? You could really advertise your educational endeavors with that. Also, link it to your resume and provide links of the websites of every other place your have been to.
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you seem to advertise yourself on all your threads. Found it funny that you even provided a link to your online degree. May I suggest you buy a banner on this website? You could really advertise your educational endeavors with that. Also, link it to your resume and provide links of the websites of every other place your have been to.
I would rather have PPL know that I use factual info and not alot of non factual info. in dealing with computers, and too many wannabes that have no clue what or simply spread alot of useless information and that someone has an educational knowledge BTW IT is a fast growing industry and there is demand for engineers in ALL fields. and if you really are good with HEX DECIMAL stuff you can be able to customize settings on some computer chips to adjust settings I am not sure if you follow however someone programmed the Hyper Chip awhile back that required some skills there. also I recalled in the HD trucks now using computers for fuel management , Location via GPS, etc some people may be young enough to be able to learn electronics enough in the Auto field that they may be able to improve or develop more efficent cars, etc.
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"IT is a fast growing industry and there is demand for engineers in ALL fields."

Yea fields that everyone and their brother wants in on and was once a high paying industry and now you're lucky if you can get 10 a hour.

I dabble with electronics all the time and build some killer stuff once in a while but I don't use my signature as a advert for my IT training.
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