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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 12-06-2001, 11:21 PM Thread Starter
 
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Well, after listening to all you rave about XP, I had to give it a try. So I had an extra hard drive lying around...I threw it in my faster computer and installed it on the new partition.

Loads Quick...very nice. I'm impressed with the layout. (Though still hard to get used to in only 15 minutes of sitting at it) Being the computer nerd I am, I went through all the menus and was relieved to see that the basic format from prior Win OS's are retained.

Seemed very stable, I didn't try out any intense programs on it, but I did try opening alot of windows and clicking everything to see if it would get stuck, but it flew through it like a champ. Seems at least as stable as 2000, but further testing will get the same results I'm sure you all have with it being even better.

I goofed around with movie maker for about 5 minutes and realized it will be something that was novel for about 10 minutes, but might be cool to someone who likes making simple movies and such. Easy for a novice with the drag and drop features of editing.

That's all so far. I also have an XP version of Advanced Server 2002 (Whistler) that I want to take a look at. Have to see if it's any better then 2K Server I'm running.

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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 12-07-2001, 11:47 PM
 
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Here's a question I have about XP. There is a program MSGSYS.exe in my WINNT/System32 folder. Full name is CBA message system. It is asking for server rights from ZA! Anyone know what this program does???
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Windows Messenger? Not sure on this one, but MSGSYS.exe looks a lot like Messenger??
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post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 12-08-2001, 09:19 AM
 
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That could possibly be it. Although I did uninstall messenger from the add/remove programs.....but I'm sure MS will always keep it there no matter what.
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Can it completely be uninstalled? I heard that it couldn't???

Anyone know for sure?
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I just recieved my copy of XP yesterday, Hopefully I will get some time to install it today. Question: Does anyone know if the installation of XP will wipe out all of your installed programs? Thanks in advance.
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I upgraded from 2000 pro to XP pro. Looks like all my programs are intact (Needed to update my scanner , AV, and zone alarm to get everything peachy.)

You can uninstall messenger (supposedly) and a couple of other programs by unhiding them from the add/remove wizard.

Uninstall "Hidden" Windows Components
Apparently, Microsoft didn't want you to be able to remove useless garbage like Windows Messenger. It's installed by default, and it doesn't appear in the Add/Remove Program applet in Control Panel.

Thankfully, you can force the issue by editing the SYSOC.INF file, which is located in the C:\WINDOWS [or your Windows XP directory]\INF folder. Open it with Notepad.

Under the [Components] heading, you'll see a whole bunch of parameters for various Windows applets. Some of them contain the word "hide." Those particular programs, which include Windows Messenger (msmsgs), Terminal Server, Pinball, and others, are installed on your XP system, but their entries are hidden from and Add/Remove dialog.

To remove Windows Messenger, edit hide out of the line that reads

msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,7

so that it looks like this:

msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,7




Save the file, close it, and open the Add/Remove Program applet. Click on Windows Components button and you'll see Windows Messenger listed. Uncheck it and click Next to purge that silly program from your system.
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You should check to make sure all the programs you are running are compatable with XP though. I know most programs are, but I do know a few that currently arent or have trouble with XP.
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Originally posted by grimmster:
Here's a question I have about XP. There is a program MSGSYS.exe in my WINNT/System32 folder. Full name is CBA message system. It is asking for server rights from ZA! Anyone know what this program does???
If I'm not mistaken, you have Norton AntiVirus installed. From what I can tell, that file appears to be integral to the "auto-update" feature in NAV. Check it out at www.symantec.com in the support area.
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I just recieved my copy of XP yesterday, Hopefully I will get some time to install it today. Question: Does anyone know if the installation of XP will wipe out all of your installed programs? Thanks in advance.
It's not supposed to but ya never know.

Seriously though, XP is Microsoft's most well-behaved OS to date (aside from the WPA piece) and shouldn't cause you any major glitches. However, as with any major upgrade such as installing a new OS over the top of an existing OS, there are always risks. Just make sure that you save/backup any of your important data that you don't want to recreate like email, favorites/bookmarks, documents, pictures, program data files, etc. and if it does hose your install you can simply restore.

I'm a big proponent of not doing an in-place upgrade of operating systems. Usually when I get a new version of a specific OS, I'll uninstall the old one completely (either with FDISK or FORMAT) and start fresh with the new one. That way there isn't any "funkiness" left over from the old. On some of my machines at home I'll do a dual boot instead of a reinstallation. It just depends on my needs on that machine and mood at the time.
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Thanks for the info cj! Guess I will allow that to go through..
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You should check to make sure all the programs you are running are compatable with XP though. I know most programs are, but I do know a few that currently arent or have trouble with XP.
You can check out NT Compatible for starters, plus you should always grab the latest "Application Compatibilty Update" from Microsoft's site.

Check out this for Windows 2000.

Grab the "Windows XP Application Compatibility Update" from here. Also check out the link for the Application Compatibility Toolkit.

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Maybe its my older hardware (dual P2 333) or maybe because I did the upgrade instead of a clean install (bad me) but I have had 4 BSOD in XP pro in two days, never doing the same thing. Not impressive. 2000 went on my systems and I got 2 BSOD in the the 18 months I had it running...
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I finally installed my copy of XP yesterday. Suprisingly, everything went pretty smooth. The only issue I had was with my version of PCanywhere, I am running 9.2 and they recommend version 10.1 or something like that. So far I really like it, but time will tell.
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Maybe its my older hardware (dual P2 333) or maybe because I did the upgrade instead of a clean install (bad me) but I have had 4 BSOD in XP pro in two days, never doing the same thing. Not impressive. 2000 went on my systems and I got 2 BSOD in the the 18 months I had it running...
It very well may be the older hardware...or more specifically older drivers. You may want to go to the manufacturer's site for each component in your machine and see if they have any XP-specific drivers. Obviously it will depend on what the exact error was on the BSOD, but normally most unexplained crashes can be traced back to bad drivers.

Then again, it may be the in-place upgrade of the OS. Go ahead and check out the driver thing before you decide to do a reinstall. You may save yourself some time and gain performance/stability in the long run.
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