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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-30-2001, 01:52 AM Thread Starter
 
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OK, don't laugh at me, just hear me out. I'm a point and click kinda guy. I have a Compaq Presario 5170 that I really like. I've maxed out on RAM, have a DVDCDRW, a 7,200rpm HD, on cable, couple of decent printers, but only a PII 350 CPU. It's the slot 1 100 bus, and I've heard that upgrading has issues due to the Compaq BIOS. I don't want to buy a new computer just yet, don't /can't change the MB. All thumbs when it comes to Tron stuff. I can plug in RAM, HD, DVDCDRW kinda stuff but that is it. OK, I know that someone out there knows the real scoop, so how about helping out a fellow Treper. Uhhh, keep it in simple terms, please.

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-30-2001, 02:27 AM
 
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Looks like 450 is the tops on your machine:

Processor upgrade

about $84 on pricewatch

100mhz might be worth it for $84? but that's up to you...
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I just got an Email reply from Compaq and the answer said a PII 500 is the best I can do, but I don't see a 500 anywhere. So if a 450 is the best I can do, will I see any boost?
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I just got an Email reply from Compaq and the answer said a PII 500 is the best I can do, but I don't see a 500 anywhere. So if a 450 is the best I can do, will I see any boost?
Sounds like someone's been smoking crack. There is no such thing as a PII 500. The guy at Compaq must be high. Either that, or he performed a typo and meant to type PIII 500. Many PII boards (especially the later ones) were able to support early PIII chips such as the 500. Given that the guy either didn't correct his typo or is flat out guessing, I wouldn't bank on being able to get anything higher than a PII 450 in that thing.

As for the performance increase, I'm not sure that it would be worth your while to swap out the chip. If you were running at a lower frequency (66Mhz) on your current chip, then you might notice a bit of a speed improvement. However, since the 350 and the 450 both run at 100Mhz, you won't be improving the speed of the bus - just the CPU. I'm not sure that the speed increase will be very noticible. It will depend heavily on the types of applications you run as to if you'll see a marked speed increase.

If it were my $87, I'd use that money towards replacing the Case, Motherboard, CPU, and whatever other components may be integrated on the motherboard. The larger computer manufacturers, such as Compaq, often include the video, sound, and modem on the motherboard in order to conserve manufacturing costs. Things like your floppy drive, DVD, CDR/W, etc. can be transferred to the new computer.
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Sounds like someone's been smoking crack. There is no such thing as a PII 500. The guy at Compaq must be high. Either that, or he performed a typo and meant to type PIII 500. Many PII boards (especially the later ones) were able to support early PIII chips such as the 500. Given that the guy either didn't correct his typo or is flat out guessing, I wouldn't bank on being able to get anything higher than a PII 450 in that thing.

As for the performance increase, I'm not sure that it would be worth your while to swap out the chip. If you were running at a lower frequency (66Mhz) on your current chip, then you might notice a bit of a speed improvement. However, since the 350 and the 450 both run at 100Mhz, you won't be improving the speed of the bus - just the CPU. I'm not sure that the speed increase will be very noticible. It will depend heavily on the types of applications you run as to if you'll see a marked speed increase.

If it were my $87, I'd use that money towards replacing the Case, Motherboard, CPU, and whatever other components may be integrated on the motherboard. The larger computer manufacturers, such as Compaq, often include the video, sound, and modem on the motherboard in order to conserve manufacturing costs. Things like your floppy drive, DVD, CDR/W, etc. can be transferred to the new computer.
Speaking of typos...I meant $84 - not $87.
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That explains why I can't find a PII 500, huh? As for the bus speed determining performance, then why are there so many different speed CPU's at 100 bus speed? I honestly don't know, that's why I ask. I do need to be schooled on this stuff, so thanks for your input and patience.
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Just got another Email from Compaq, I'd asked them why they said 500 PII when none are available. This reply said UP TO 500, if not available, use a 450.
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Save your money,an increase that small will have little visible results,plan for a new system.
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If you are loaded up on RAM... and you dont want to get a new PC... how bout an OS upgrade? XP is pretty nice. It should run good enough on a 350 if you have tons of RAM. Or just re-installing your current OS would give you a noticeable speed increase since you are removing all the junk.
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yep, looks like I'll just keep her going for a bit and just live with it for now. RAM, fast HD, and cable really does make everything mo' betta anyway. My DW has always just let me do what I think is best, so if I came home with a mega-system, she'd be OK with it. Right now, 1st of the year, we are dropping all excess $$$ into our funds to get a ride on the 1st of the year lower buying costs and hope to ride the January rise. HOPE. The last couple of months have seen a bit of a rise, helps to offset the bad times before that.
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