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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 01-07-2002, 04:00 PM Thread Starter
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New iMac

I know some of you are Mac-o-philes, and I myself have been looking to buy a Mac. The new iMac released today at Macworld SF might be the one.

Sweet machine. This baby has it all... 800MHz G4, CDRW/DVDR Superdrive (high end models), 15" flat screen display etc etc....

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I really do not care for the style of the base very much :(
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Wow. $1800 for a computer you can NEVER upgrade again........
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post #4 of 31 (permalink) Old 01-08-2002, 09:36 AM Thread Starter
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Ermm...with Apples (even the iMac) all you have to do is swap in a new cpu board (I forget the technical term, but Apples don't use a traditional PC style motherboard) plop in more RAM and there you go.

I've been PC all my life, but even I can recognize that its too bad that PC makers don't have the cajones to develop innovative products that take full advantage of new and current technology, and deliver them for a fair price.

Name me a company that makes a PC with a 1.4+ghz (comparable to the G4 800 series) at least 256MBmb RAM, 60GB hard drive, 32MB nVidia DDR video card, a DVD-R and a CDRW drive, 15" flat screen display, firewire, etc etc etc computer for $1,800.
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I am a regular at Pricewatch.com, and from my digging around you can't build a system like I stated above for $1,800.

Hmmm...

Could be a challenge though. I'll do more digging.
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1.4 athlon $94
a7m266 mb $115
258 crucial $71
gef2mx400 32 $49
case w/400w $100
16x dvd $41
16x10x32 cdrw $62
1.44 flopy $3
tft 15" $265
60GB $86
couldn't find a fire-wire card.....
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That leaves $800 to upgrade parts as you see fit. per part if you wish.

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Well you got a couple of the parts wrong, and you are missing others.

Hold tight, I am making a list with links to the actual products.
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all parts were taken from pricewatch..my point being is it's easy to get something that will be easier to upgrade for a lot cheaper....
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post #10 of 31 (permalink) Old 01-08-2002, 01:25 PM Thread Starter
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Not really considering you haven't included a hard drive, keyboard, mouse, speakers, modem, network card, firewire, etc etc. I am comparing systems spec for spec, or as close to it as I can get.

Plus, unlike you and I, most people don't want to build the computer themselves, or hassle with shipping costs, scatty warranties etc.

Motherboard/CPU/Fan: $210.00
Biostar M7VKD M/B/AMD XP 1600+/Coolermaster heatsink/fan. http://www.pcdirectsource.com/Item.cfm?ID=543

Memory: $97.19
Crucial DDR PC2100. http://www.crucial.com/store/PartSpe...ule=CT3272Y265

HDD: $87
60 GB MAXTOR ULTRA ATA 100; 5400 RPM 2MB 8.9ms. http://www.starcomputek.com/detail.c...ID=258&add=yes

Video: $74.06
NVIDIA TNT2 PRO 32MB SDRAM AGP. http://www.emjcomputer.com/ Part no.:249030

Sound:

CDRW/DVD-R: $599.10
HP DVDRW/CDRW COMBO DRIVE. 12x/10x/32x CDRW; 2.4x re-write/8x read DVDRW. http://www.peachpc.com/itemdesc.asp?...DHPDVDCDR&tpc=

Modem: $14.95
Rockwell (Conexant) 56k PCI Data Fax Modem - Retail Boxed. http://www.enpc.com/roccon56kpci.html

Firewire: $14.95
Soyo-Tek SY-1394 FireWire PCI Controller Card. http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/soysy1firpci.html

NIC: $25
3COM NIC model 3C595 TX PCI 10/100mbps. http://micronet.vwh.net/Merchant2/me...t_Code=3C595TX

Monitor: $265
15" LCD 1024x768. www.delivermypc.com

Case: $49.99
Mid USB TM-788, 400 Watt ATX Case. http://www.webuildpcs.com/product.asp?0=200&1=285&3=284

Keyboard: $4.50
Addesso Eagle Touch Internet Keyboard - PS/2. http://www.webuildpcs.com/product.asp?0=229&1=292&3=59

Mouse: $17.99
Logitec Optical Mouse. http://www.webuildpcs.com/product.asp?0=225&1=293&3=85

Speakers: $4.99
4Q 120 Watt PMPO A/C Built in. http://www.webuildpcs.com/product.asp?0=223&1=299&3=116

Total: $1464.72

My point is that there is no national OEM computer manufactuer who currently produces such a machine, and if they did it definatley would not be for this price or $1800. Can someone prove me wrong?
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I'll agree that no national brand will have a lower price system, but they will have a comparable system at the price, and can be upgraded a lot easier if the need arises.

The biggest thing is that combo drive. I personally would hate to have a combo drive. One part breaks and you just lost your CD-ROM, DVD, CDRW capability. Plus the cost alone is unjustifiable.

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Correction:

Dell offers a Dimension 8200 series that you can customize to come to damn near the same thing as the new iMac, or other Apples. Only problem is the price: $2,359

I agree with the upgradability to a point. As I mentioned earlier, you can swap out CPUs, HDDs, sound etc etc etc with Apples as well, but not too many people realize that.
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It still sounds like a pretty cool system...I always wanted to get into Macs.
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Ditto that.

Gee its nice to have a civil debate. Better than the ones I usuall get into. ;)
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And don't get me wrong, I like the looks of the new iMac and have nothing against Mac's, I just wouldn't get the top of the line one for $1800.....
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