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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 02-23-2002, 11:45 PM Thread Starter
 
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Wtf???

Ok, this is really confusing me. A few weeks back i formatted/partition and upgraded to XP... i made a 5 gig partition for windows/programs and the rest of my hard drive is dedicated to games and mp3s.

Anyway, I have a little over 600 megs in program files plus the windows files, and i only have 500 megs out of 500 gigs free??? If I go into my c: drive, select all and go to properties it says there is 1.73 gigs used, so WTF happened to the other 2.5 gigs? I already went through and deleted all the temporary internet files.

Then today i defrag my c: drive and when it gets done it says there was some files it couldn't defrag for some reason. For file names it gives "\found.001\file0004.CHK" and "\found.0002\file002.CHK" each of which are taking up 512 megs each. What the hell are those 2 files? Also, i go to search for files/folders and it cant find either???? Anyone familiar with XP know what the hell is going on?? Any help would be appreciate?
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 02-25-2002, 09:43 AM
 
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Remember when Windows95 ran a scandisk when you lost power? It would find problems with your disk and give you the option to delete the files or save them. If you selected save it would save files on your disk. Those 2 files you are talking about have the same naming convention

FileXXX.CHK

I would hate to know that if found that much wrong with your disk, though! I wonder if you can delete those files safely?
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I cant even find the files though ???
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I am a Programmer Consultant so I really don't know. We do have an MCSE Consultant on staff so I emailed him with your problem. As soon as he emails me back I'll post what I know. One more thought. You did a search for these files and found nothing. Did you have your PC set to View All Files when you did the search? I'm not sure about Windows XP but for most Windows Platforms, you go to Windows Explorer, select Tools from the menu, and folder options. You should find it somewhere in there. Set it to view all files and do the search again.
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Do you have system restore on? That takes up a good chunk of space.
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post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old 02-25-2002, 05:18 PM Thread Starter
 
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When I searched i had it to show hidden files...

what exactly is the system restore, and how do i get to it?
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Quote:
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When I searched i had it to show hidden files...

what exactly is the system restore, and how do i get to it?
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Here's his response:

Well, Windows NT/2000's CHKDSK would create files like you describe when it runs. Scandisk is not included with NT/2000. CHKDSK runs automatically during bootup if it detects a problem with the file system, such as after a system crash. You can also run it from the command line, or through the Tools tab on the Properties dialog box for the disk.

Unlike Win9x's Scandisk, CHKDSK normally just creates folders called found.000, found.001, etc, and puts any messed up files (crosslinked, lost clusters, etc) in those folders.

You can delete them in XP the same way you delete any files. Just select the files in Windows Explorer and delete them. I don't have any experience with WinXP yet, but it's basically Win2k with some new stuff tacked on. If the system is running correctly now, he should be able to delete them without any risk.

The real question is why does he have them? They would have had to have been created by WinXP running CHKDSK at some point. If the files are 512 MB each, I'm guessing they were maybe the swap file originally? That's the only thing I can think of that would be that large. Is he not getting clean shutdowns?


I guess the first question is, are you having any problems with running XP? Second, there's also another option: The same place you checked show Hidden files, there's some more Hide options. One is hide protected operating system files. I would make sure all of those are unchecked.
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I was originally having problems with XP, but none now- I was trying to find new video drivers that would get my tv-out to work. (i was halfway successful on that one.... i get black and white, but no color and it pisses me off)

and it does make sense that it could be a swap file because i do have 512mb of PC2100 ram...


when i get time later i'll try to track down those files and get some more HD space back.

Thanks for the help
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ok, i turned off the System Restore on XP and that got me back about half a gig, but those 2 files were 512 each so i'm assuming they are still on my drive somewhere...

any other ideas?
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Yeah, make sure you viewing hidden files & system files.
My Computer / Tools / Folder Options / View make sure "Show Hidden Files & Folders" is marked & make sure "Hide extensions for known file types" & "Hide protected operating system files" is unchecked.

If you have any \FOLDER001, etc. directories toss em, your not going to get any data out of them.

Clear out whatever is in C:\Windows\Temp (keep the \Temp folder)

Then start selecting, grab 1/2 of your folders, see how big it is, then the other half, keep narrowing it down til you find out which folder is hogging the space.

Yes system restore can hog 2GB of space easily but you can adjust the % of space used. Under Start / Settings / Control Panel / System / System Restore
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Don't forget to look for "MEMORY.DMP" and/or "USER.DMP".

Whenever you get a BSOD and you have the box configured to save the memory dump it'll toss a file equal to the size of your RAM called MEMORY.DMP. You can use a variety of tools from Microsoft to then analyze the dump file and determine what happened.

USER.DMP is created by that lovable guy named Dr. Watson and contains application crash data.

Also, if you have 512MB of RAM you should be able to run most of what you want within the physical RAM space and not have to hit the pagefile (swapfile) very often. If you go into the Control Panel and hit the System icon, you can tweak the settings for the pagefile manually in order to control it's girth. Whatever size you decide on, make sure that the initial and maximum size is identical. This way, your pagefile won't be dynamic and cause a performance hit as it expands and contracts - it's one size all the time. An added bonus is knowing exactly how much disk space your pagefile eats. To see it's current size, look for PAGEFILE.SYS.

You can also move the pagefile to whatever drive you want and can even split up the pagefile across multiple drives. Be warned, however, that when you split it across multiple drives, you then have a performance hit on those drives when accessing the pagefile and other data on that drive simultaneously. The rule of thumb is to slap it onto the fastest disk you have assuming you have enough free space on it. Barring that, keep it on the system drive (usually C: unless you're multi-booting).

What I usually do (YMMV) is create a 2-4GB C: partition (depending on if it's NT, W2K, or XP) and pop the OS onto it. Other than system updates, driver packages, etc., I never install anything else to it. I then create a "scratch" partition that is twice the size of what I think my total RAM will ever be in the system. Onto that partition goes my pagefile, the i386 directory, and various other core application installation files - never any actual programs. This way if the pagefile for whatever reason trashes the partition from a BSOD or whatever, I lose no important data and can easily decide to blow away the partition and recreate it if necessary. With the remaining disk space I do whatever. That's where I install my applications and store my data.

Oh yeah...if you are using a RAID subsystem (you'll know if you are) don't ever throw the pagefile on anything but a single drive or a RAID 0 array. It'll be way too slow if you do.
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Hey, thanx for all the help... i finally found those damn files... i had it checked to show all hidden files, but didn't uncheck "Hide protected operating system files"
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ok, one more quick question... I was looking through some of the system files and came across 2 and was wondering what they did: Hiberfil.sys (511mb) and pagefile.sys (768mb). Those are some huge files, so they have to do something crucial XP, right?
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Hiberfil.sys - Hibernation, dumps your memory to a file that way you don't have to wait for your system to reload everything. I always disable it, it's nice for notebooks but not for PC's.

Start / Settings / Control Panel / Power Options / Hibernate

pagefile.sys - this is your swapfile/pagefile Windows uses a dynamic or set portion of hard drive space as memory in addition to your physical ram. If you run out of physical ram you see you HD being pegged bigtime. A mechanical device is slower then a solid state device. Their are some tweaks to prevent XP from using the pagefile so much but you need 512+ MB of RAM otherwise you'll get BSOD's bigtime.
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