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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-05-2002, 09:39 PM Thread Starter
 
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Computer Freezing Problem

Hey, I hope one of you can help me

I have:
Duron 900
ECS K7S5A Motherboard
Enermax 400w PSU
640mb Ram (512 AzenRam, 128 Infineon Ram)
ATI Radeon 7200 64mb Sdr
20gb Maxtor
Onboard Sound and LAN
56K Diamond Supra Modem
Win98SE

My computer keeps freezing, the mouse can still move around, but I can't click anything...

Sometimes my screen goes black...

I dunno what it is, I got all the latest drivers for everything, except for my AGP port. If I install AGP drivers my Radeon won't work. That's why I just re-installed my OS today, I thought that since the latest AGP drivers came out, the problem would be fixed. I was wrong.

All I have installed right now, is MSN Messenger, Internet Explorer 6, my scanner software, and Norton System Works 2001
(only virus protection enabled, crash guard not used since it doesn't help)

I thought it was a problem with my software, since I had 18gb worth of software on it. Now I have 18 free GB and still the same problem.

My computer also freezes alot more with MSN Messenger, every single time I use it, it freezes (some times after 30secs, sometimes after 5 min) I tried re-installing it before and after re-installing my OS and same results.

Also, while installing my scanner software (HP ScanJet 5300C) it froze, but I rebooted and it installed fine.

Any theroy's? my system and CPU temp are at 30C and 40C, respectively.

P.S. I dunno if this helps, but I play the online game
Half-Life: Counter-Strike with no problems at all, no freezing. It demands a lot of my video card as I get 99fps max.
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 04-08-2002, 06:25 AM
 
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Loose the 128MB stick of ram. Mixing different sizes of ram leads to stability issues. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Even two sticks of the same size but different brands can cause problems as well.

Dam I hope this system likes these (2) different 128's.

Don't buy Nanya RAM, Mom said it WASN'T OK!
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And if that doesn't work try loosing the 512 and putting the 128 RAM stick back in... some mother boards are fussy about memory.
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I tried both, 128 alone and 512 alone. The 512 starts freezing right away, as usual. But when I put the 128 in the first freeze happens after 1 or 2 hours, then after that happens as usual like the 512.

Anyone know why when I install my motherboards AGP drivers Win98SE doesn't load up?

It gets to the part where the Loading Windows screen goes away and I'm supposed to see the desktop, but my monitor makes a sound like it's being refreshed and the screen goes black. I can get in safe mode, then I have to uninstall my ATI Radeon drivers, then I can get into windows normally, but I'm limited to 640x480 and 16 colours. If I go any higher the computer won't boot.

ATI says that the computer will hang after awhile if there are no AGP drivers. But I can't exactly install mine.

Also, does ATI support it's OEM products? I've sent them 2 problem reports already, and no response.
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Opps, forgot to mention this. Newer AGP video cards don't always work well at all in older Pentium 3 based motherboards. Yes it'll post video every time, you'll be able to install your operating system blah, blah, blah, BUT tax that video card at all & it's GFP, BSOD, hard lock city. It's a voltage issue, you can't run a AGP 2.0 card in a AGP 1.0 or 1.1 slot. Just doesn't work. On a Abit BE6-II a Geforce 3 no, Radeon 8500 no, MX400 yes, Ti200 yes most of the time.

If you put a PCI video card in it I bet it would be stable. If you can I'd do that to rule out if you have a RAM issue as well & I wouldn't mix & match the RAM like your doing.

FWI MSI K7NPRO (Nforce board) if the USB doesn't work & your running the latest BIOS it's your Power Supply. I don't care what the wattage claims to be (mine says 300w) it's your power supply.
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Opps, forgot to mention this. Newer AGP video cards don't always work well at all in older Pentium 3 based motherboards. Yes it'll post video every time, you'll be able to install your operating system blah, blah, blah, BUT tax that video card at all & it's GFP, BSOD, hard lock city. It's a voltage issue, you can't run a AGP 2.0 card in a AGP 1.0 or 1.1 slot. Just doesn't work. On a Abit BE6-II a Geforce 3 no, Radeon 8500 no, MX400 yes, Ti200 yes most of the time.

If you put a PCI video card in it I bet it would be stable. If you can I'd do that to rule out if you have a RAM issue as well & I wouldn't mix & match the RAM like your doing.

FWI MSI K7NPRO (Nforce board) if the USB doesn't work & your running the latest BIOS it's your Power Supply. I don't care what the wattage claims to be (mine says 300w) it's your power supply.
Mine is an AMD duron/athlon compatible motherboard, it can go to the Athlon 2.0 XP.

As for taxing the video card, I can play the online game Half-Life:Counter-strike at 99fps with no freezing or any other problems. It's just when I'm surfing the net or browsing my computer or installing programs that my computer freezes.

I'll see if I can get a PCI version of my card, is there any difference in performance between at PCI or AGP video card? (if I get the same model)

As for the PSU, mine is pretty power full, I get at least 28A through the 3.3v rail... I acutally upgraded it from a PSU that only put out 12A, I thought it would solve my problem, I was wrong.
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That's an excellent power supply. Are you running DDR or SDRAM? Any better results by not mixing the RAM? PCI vs. AGP on a older video card comparsion no it isn't any faster to go with AGP. With newer AGP cards yes AGP is much faster. Have you done any BIOS tweaking?
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I'm running sdram, no difference if I mix the chips or not, same problem. I'm running my 128 chip right now. I'm switching back to the 512 soon.

I've disabled everything in my BIOS to free up IRQ's. Only my modem and some USB thing are sharing now, but my video card is on it's own IRQ.

I've tried all the possible ram setup combinations in my BIOS, no effect. I'm running on SAFE dram timing configuration, no mater what I choose it doesn't help.

My fsb is at 100/100. If I go to 100/133, no difference. If I go 133/133 my computer won't post, lol, overclocked too much.

No conflicts in device manager.

As for different video cards, the Radeon 7200 was built and released last year, so I guess it's gonna be a fast AGP.

I don't have any other video cards, so I can't test it out.
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I'm wondering if it's that ECS motherload. Wouldn't be my 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,.... choice for a board.

Check for BIOS updates.

What kind of HD do you have?
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I have the latest Bios update,

The motherboard wasn't my #1 choice either, but the integrated sound and lan made it look very attractive, not to mention the sdram and ddr ram capability and the fact that it can use any Athlon XP processor.

I thought the only thing I'd ever have to upgrade on it was just the processor. That's why I got the Duron 900 processor, I thought of waiting for the prices for the XP 2000Mhz to go down so I could upgrade for cheap.

I have a Maxtor 20GB 7200 rpm HD.
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Have you updated your virus definitions? I had the same problem and it turned out to be a virus. Update and Do a thorough scan on all files. Also, make sure power supply fan is free of dust/dirt. It sounds like it could also be an overheating opportunity. May want to pick up an auxiliary fan. These are two of the least expensive alternatives.
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