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Microsoft to delay launch of Windows Vista
The first overhaul of Windows in five years is due out in the beginning of 2007; system quality, security concerns slow release.
March 21, 2006: 6:26 PM EST


SEATTLE (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. said on Tuesday it plans to delay the consumer launch of its much-anticipated Windows Vista operating system to January 2007 from its earlier target of the second half of 2006, sending its shares down nearly 3 percent.

Microsoft plans to launch a product for corporate customers in November and then roll out Windows Vista for consumers after the holiday shopping season, Jim Allchin, co-president of the company's Platforms & Services Division, said on a conference call.


Vista is the first major overhaul of Windows since Microsoft rolled out Windows XP nearly five years ago.

Microsoft said Vista is delayed because it wants to improve overall quality, particularly in security, and that PC makers didn't want the operating system introduced in the middle of holiday sales, because a new version would create instability in the market.

Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft is planning six core offerings of the Vista operating system, targeting how people use computers instead of PC hardware specifications.

Three will be aimed at consumers, two at business users, and a stripped-down version for emerging markets. Unlike the current Windows XP, there will be no versions designed specifically for advanced 64-bit computing, multimedia computers or Tablet PCs.

Windows, which is found in about 90 percent of all computer desktops, is one of Microsoft's biggest cash cows.

Shares of Microsoft (Research) fell 2.6 percent to $27.02 in extended trade. In regular Nasdaq trade, the stock fell 15 cents, or less than 1 percent, to close at $27.74
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I was waiting for that :(



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The Sys requirements for this BEAST of an OS are obscene!

There is a PC shop down the road from me, I'm good friends with the owner, so I got to see the beta of vista. (They have a TechNet subscription) Oh my gosh! That thing brought a Pentium D 820 with 2 GB of ram to it's knees! Ditto for the Athlon 64 X2 3800 with 2 GB! Both those CPUs are dual core, 64 bit CPUs!

I realize this is a beta and performance has not been optimized, but sheesh!

The Aero Glass interface needs a GPU with DirectX 9 pixel shader support in HARDWARE! That means you need at least a Geforce FX or Radeon 9500! Microsoft has stated that the final version will need this hardware, so it's not just beta bloatedness.

DX9 shaders need lots of memory bandwidth to perform well, I have a strong feeling that the integrated video systems out today that have DX9 support in hardware will run this interface very slowly.

As a PC builder, I am making sure all my PCs I sell have a PCI Express slot for a GPU upgrade in additon to the DX9 capable integrated GPUs on the low end boxes. I have happy customers now, I want to make sure they stay that way...

As for RAM, 1GB will probably be the recommended minimum with 512MB needed to start the OS! 2GB will probably provide good performance.

As for the CPU, I think a Pentium 4 2.6GHz or Athlon XP 2600 will be needed for acceptable performance. Celerons before the Celeron D need not apply!

Hard disk space requirements will probably be about 10GB.

On one hand, Vista is going to be great, eveyone will be selling new PCs, Dell, HP/Compaq, the guy down the street and of course, me!

On the other hand it pisses me off because it suddenly makes a LOT of PCs obsolete. All these old parts that run XP great will suddenly be worth next to nothing. People will be pissed when I tell them that their 2 year old "value priced" box won't cut it. My laptop is SOL in terms of Vista. At least I don't sell POS throw away PCs, so they won't be mad at me...

Of course, when it comes out, I may have some cash for some BIG mods after all the upgrades I perform for people... HO PCM and plenum here we come!
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There is a PC shop down the road from me, I'm good friends with the owner, so I got to see the beta of vista. (They have a TechNet subscription) Oh my gosh! That thing brought a Pentium D 820 with 2 GB of ram to it's knees! Ditto for the Athlon 64 X2 3800 with 2 GB! Both those CPUs are dual core, 64 bit CPUs!!
umm i ran the very first beta of it fine on a single core 3000+ 512mb ram and a 6800gt no real problems at all, on my current dual core 4400+ 2 gig ram and x1900xt it runs fine as well with the latest build of it, i only used the 64 bit version both times, but on my laptop it did hurt it until you turn that one setting down to minimize the resources or whatever, i forgot the term they called it but that helped it and i have an integrated GPU on my laptop so yeah the aero glass was killing me, but again you can turn that feature off, overall i know it sounds like it will be a bitch to run on a regular pc, but there are options to make it run smoother and i am sure that we all will be fine with it and the people with higher end pc's will just gte a nice reward, pretty much like in every other peice of software


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Yeah, it is true about the options in the OS, but since Aero Glass is probably the most touted feature, and certainly the one most users will recognize, it IS important.

I see new PCs in many people's near future.... Vista should help me in my modding addiction...

As for the computer shop down the road, who knows what else was in it, I didn't ask, I was too interested in the software. They may have not defraged or something like that, who knows. All I know is that it was SLOW.
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Vista is a forced format install, and even without aero you still get some cool effects in vista, just not the whole super advanced Mac/KDE look that i think they are trying soo hard to get at, and if Vista is anyhing that XP was i am sure that you will get your fill in the modding part of it, the one thing that i did notice was that you can load your drivers from the setup portion in the install, wic is cool instead of doing it manualy for an integrated install, i know tha ti will still end up doing the integrated way though just because although they did make it easier, still not as easy as id want it


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That wasn't the modding I was talking about!

The more PCs (or upgrades) I sell, the more money I can put into my CAR!
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lol, yeah, i am always putting money into my computers, i kinda stopped with my car after my radio, i am just dying to get a new AM2 socket though, june cant come fast enough
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