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Get Your Red-Hot Windows Vista Beta

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Posted by Yardena Arar
Thursday, June 08, 2006, 11:06 AM (PST)


In a surprise move, Microsoft today made Windows Vista Beta 2 available to pretty much anybody who wants it. If you're interested, head to the Windows Vista Web site. Make sure, however, that you check out system requirements first--they're also on the Windows Vista site.

The beta, available in English, German or Japanese and in both 32- and 64-bit editions, is for Windows Vista Ultimate, the most full-featured version of the OS. The code is available either as a free download of an ISO file (an image of the installation DVD that you must burn onto a blank recordable DVD), or you can get it on DVD, in which case you'll have to pay Microsoft for production, shipping, handling and sales tax (for me in California the total came to $10.85).

If you opt for the ISO download, be prepared to wait: The 32-bit version is a 3.5GB file, the 64-bit version takes up 4.4GB. Microsoft estimates that with a "fast" cable or DSL connection, you're still looking at 4.5 hours to download the 32-bit version and 5.5 hours for the 64-bit edition. Also, a Microsoft spokeswoman sent me e-mail saying demand is already so high that when you try to sign up (which involves filling out a little questionnaire) you might be asked to try again later in the day. But don't dawdle--Microsoft says it's only making the beta available in a "limited quantity," and once the unspecified magic number of orders have been received, no new ones will be accepted.

The beta is being offered under the new Windows Vista Customer Preview Program, and if you get it you'll also get Release Candidate 1 (RC1) when it's ready "later this year," Microsoft says. RC1 is basically the final version of the OS--any changes after that are supposed to be bug fixes only.

Microsoft is urging people thinking of getting the beta to install it only on test machines, and as someone who upgraded from XP to the Vista beta a couple of weeks ago, I have to second the warning. At least a couple of applications I'd been using regularly, Adobe's Photoshop Elements 4 and Rhapsody, no longer work thanks to compatibility issues.

And if you do install the beta, I'd be cautious about installing Computer Associates' beta eTrust EZ Antivirus software for Vista: It made my PC basically unusable last week because of constant freezes and crashes. On the other hand, if you're upgrading from XP, you'll probably want to uninstall your current AV software, which could leave you vulnerable to attacks. (For the time being, I'm counting on PC World's corporate defenses to keep me safe.)

If you get the Vista beta, let us know how it works (or not) for you. Microsoft says it wants your feedback and so do we.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...y/preview.mspx


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Damnit.........high volume of requests, cannot process at this time :(



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Downloading now!! FYI, if you go to freedownloadmanager.com. you can download, surprise, a free download manager!! Yuo can then use that to download it because the link to use your own download manager works, it is the one to use their manager that is busy. How do they figure 54hrs for a 3.5gb file at 256kbps?? Shouldn't that only be like 3 hrs??

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Ummmm, mine started downloading with the 'freedownloadmanager'......but then stopped?

......never mind 590kb/sec




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Ummmm, mine started downloading with the 'freedownloadmanager'......but then stopped?

......never mind 590kb/sec
Yeah, that why you need a download manager. If for some reason the download gets interrupted, the monitor will restart it. Damn, I'm only at 130kb/s, but I'm up to 10% already - woohoo!!
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Downloaded yesterday at 745k/sec, burned to DVD and installed on my new notebook, which I am using right now.

Only issues were that it did not recognize the audio hardware or modem. Modem I disabled, cause I will never use it, and it was no problem installing the audio, I just had to run it in Windows XP SP2 Compatibility Mode.

So far, it is pretty slick. A few nagging issues, like the damn permissions that pop up for every little thing.
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Doesn't read on windows for me.......but when I restart and boot from DVD it reads......unfortunetely when I click 'install now'.....it doesn't do anything?



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yeah i posted about this yesterday, i used vista enough already, my buddy had it on his pc since the first betea release over a year ago and i had it on my pc a few times, granted i did download it yesterday, did not monitor the speed though. and avenger i dont know what you mean, but you have to have a clean install for vista, you cant just upgrade it
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Got it down in 30 minutes using the free download manager mentioned above. I also ended up with a second product key. Once it was done downloading, I hit the back button on my browser a couple of times looking for something and when it got to that page it showed a different key. I wonder if you can just camp on that page and hit refresh to generate new keys.
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I left mine going all night and for some reason it stopped so I only have 60% downloaded. It is going super slow now at only 60kb/s. It is going to take a while. I still don't get where they get 52hrs for a 3.2gb file at 256kb/s.
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I've used various builds since late last year, this one is by far the most stable.

As for the keys, an e-mail that I got from Microsoft said that each key is good for use on no more than 8 machines.
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I should have indicated on my download time that my office connection consists of two OC3's, so my link to the Internet is not the slow part.

I went back in and got a message that I had received the maximum number of keys I could (two) and both the confirmation emails said 10 machines each. Hell, I will be happy to just play with it on one machine, let alone 19 others.
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I have some PCs to evaluate on.....

Hmmm.... I have been waiting for this for a while, I'm actually getting good speed but the download stalls often and needs to be resumed alot. I hope the images arrive intact...

With that said, I have an exta HDD for my main rig... and my old rig is screaming for an OS so this should be FUN!

The funny thing is my old rig is "Vista Premium Ready" according to the documentation!

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Quake 4 made me upgrade..... Ill post updates on performance, I'm REALLY curious how it runs on this 2 year old PC.

But what I really want to see is how it runs on my new box. Athlon 64 X2 + 7800GT + Aero sounds like fun!

Just for laughs, some one should try the minimum system requirements.... Oh wait, I have an old Pentium III 933 box with an inch of dust on it in the corner... Time to find 512MB of PC 133 for it.
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Just for laughs, some one should try the minimum system requirements.... Oh wait, I have an old Pentium III 933 box with an inch of dust on it in the corner... Time to find 512MB of PC 133 for it.

Ummmm, yea thats EXACTLY my computer! I may try this if my old HD will live long enough to install... (it was making some scary noises before I replaced it!)

EDIT: Well, 850 kb/s and 1 hour to go! Thanks for the FDM heads up!

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yeah i posted about this yesterday, i used vista enough already, my buddy had it on his pc since the first betea release over a year ago and i had it on my pc a few times, granted i did download it yesterday, did not monitor the speed though. and avenger i dont know what you mean, but you have to have a clean install for vista, you cant just upgrade it

actually, not true, we just did it to a box here at work that was running XP with no problems
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