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Camry to test at Atlanta.

Toyota Testing at AMS: Now just one unveiling remains [after Ford and Chevy] Toyota, which has scheduled its mandatory on-track NASCAR test of its Camry for sometime next week at Atlanta Motor Speedway.(Yahoo Sports)(8-5-2005)

I hear they sent a picture of the rear end to other teams, so the drivers would get used to what they will see on the track.
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Of course, because their Truck series teams are doing such a great job at beating up on the American company teams...moron.
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I hear they sent a picture of the rear end to other teams, so the drivers would get used to what they will see on the track.
They like to let the drivers know what the slow cars look like so they can get over in advance when they are going to lap them.
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They like to let the drivers know what the slow cars look like so they can get over in advance when they are going to lap them.
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Actually they've done much worse than expected in the truck series. Even with all of Nascar's 'help'. They've spent alot of money and last year fired their 2 best drivers. Hired
one back and they still aren't doing so well. This is their second season and they're doing much worse than last season. So get them Camry's certified by Nascar and lets go racing.
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Didn't AMS just get FUCKED by a tornado not too long ago?
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Didn't AMS just get FUCKED by a tornado not too long ago?
Badly, and I hardly believe the track is already ready for a test session. We are talking $40 million damage, mostly to the buildings and such, but the surface was torn up pretty bad.
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They tested there last week with the '06 Fusion and Monte Carlo. The racing surface held up. Most of the damage was to the buildings, scoring towers and such.
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I heard that there are problems with the Monte and that they have alot of work to do to get it ready. They didn't get into specifics just said it missed the rules by a lot.
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haha

i knew that would happen. once the trd started developing the tundra for the truck series, i knew the camry would eventually make its way into the cup series.
i think they sound neat too (the tundras). i like what you said about sending the picture of the rear end.. haha.
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Actually they've done much worse than expected in the truck series. Even with all of Nascar's 'help'. They've spent alot of money and last year fired their 2 best drivers. Hired
one back and they still aren't doing so well. This is their second season and they're doing much worse than last season. So get them Camry's certified by Nascar and lets go racing.
i have to tell ya, you've got a bit of nerve talking like that; talking down to toyota like that. domestic manufactures have been developing nascar stock cars like 50 years and transfered much of the design to the trucks, which they've also had more time to develop over toyota. toyota's just starting. the dodge intrepid wasn't doing all that great in the cup series when it first came out and neither did the taurus nor the monte carlo. it takes time to develope something and make it work -- and domestics have generally 50 years on toyota. the question is, would those domestic manufactures be able to develop ~3L engines that put out over 900hp? please.

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i have to tell ya, you've got a bit of nerve talking like that; talking down to toyota like that. domestic manufactures have been developing nascar stock cars like 50 years and transfered much of the design to the trucks, which they've also had more time to develope over toyota. toyota's just starting. the dodge intrepid wasn't doing all that great in the cup series when it first came out and neither did the taurus nor the monte carlo. it takes time to develope something and make it work -- and domestics have generally 50 years on toyota. the question is, would those domestic manufactures be able to develope ~3L engines that put out over 900hp? please.
Oh jesus christ, here we go. what the fuck does a 2jz that makes 7 lb-ft of torque have to do with a NASCAR series. By the way, the truck series is NOT that old, and the domestic companies come out with new trucks on average about every 5 years. I think you have some toyota envy here, so I think you have alot of nerve talking Toyota up like you are when they haven't shown any kind of the dominance everyone said they would.
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I hear they sent a picture of the rear end to other teams, so the drivers would get used to what they will see on the track.
Yep, when a car gets lapped usually the laping driver sees the rear end of a car.

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Oh jesus christ, here we go. what the fuck does a 2jz that makes 7 lb-ft of torque have to do with a NASCAR series. By the way, the truck series is NOT that old, and the domestic companies come out with new trucks on average about every 5 years. I think you have some toyota envy here, so I think you have alot of nerve talking Toyota up like you are when they haven't shown any kind of the dominance everyone said they would.
i'm not even talking about the 2jz. fuck the supra. i'm talking about f1.

and don't give me that, oh, he's an f1 fan, blah blah, because i watch nascar cup, busch and trucks as much as i watch f1 and anything of european heart. they're completely different but the point still is, domestics only make power with displacement for the most part. as far as i'm concerned, they build engines with the craftsmanship and quality of 5 year olds. let's not beat around the bush here. they're crap. the general quality is just crap. even all the japanese imports built in north america are flawed because it's the people that build them. all they care about is getting a paycheque and if it's a friday and they want to take off, they will rush through it. they just don't care, and that's just typical of north americans in general and you know it; i know you do. don't try to tell me you work with people that take the time to do everything perfect because i've worked in many places and it's rotten.
i know a few people that work in dealerships and they always have complaints about the total disregard for quality. they compare the exact same model car that used to be built in japan to the ones they build here now and the quality is so far less it's disgusting.
moving along.. the facts are that toyota doesn't have 50 years of race-bred over-head valve v8 engine design experience. despite the truck series not being that old, it's nearly the same thing (powerplant technology wise). what bugs the hell outta me is, nascar keeps restricting the shit out of toyota. if you didn't know or didn't mention for your own convenience, when the tundra was being developed for nascar, toyota's engine was putting out 60hp more than the domestic ones and nascar wouldn't let them use it. they're just jerking them around so they can't complete. now you know why they're down on power and not competing the way people thought.. it's not that they can't make the power; it's because nascar is fucking them in the ass.

this isn't against you as a person, so please don't take offense. i just think what you said was a pile of horse muffins. i'd also like to point out that quality these days for domestics is all diamler-chrysler. if i were to buy a new car that had to be domestic, it would be a chrysler or a division there-of. ford and gm makes me want to vomit.

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i'm not even talking about the 2jz. fuck the supra. i'm talking about f1.

and don't give me that, oh, he's an f1 fan, blah blah, because i watch nascar cup, busch and trucks as much as i watch f1 and anything of european heart. they're completely different but the point still is, domestics only make power with displacement for the most part. as far as i'm concerned, they build engines with the craftsmanship and quality of 5 year olds. let's not beat around the bush here. they're crap. the general quality is just crap. even all the japanese imports built in north america are flawed because it's the people that build them. all they care about is getting a paycheque and if it's a friday and they want to take off, they will rush through it. they just don't care, and that's just typical of north americans in general and you know it; i know you do. don't try to tell me you work with people that take the time to do everything perfect because i've worked in many places and it's rotten.
i know a few people that work in dealerships and they always have complaints about the total disregard for quality. they compare the exact same model car that used to be built in japan to the ones they build here now and the quality is so far less it's disgusting.
moving along.. the facts are that toyota doesn't have 50 years of race-bred over-head valve v8 engine design experience. despite the truck series not being that old, it's nearly the same thing (powerplant technology wise). what bugs the hell outta me is, nascar keeps restricting the shit out of toyota. if you didn't know or didn't mention for your own convenience, when the tundra was being developed for nascar, toyota's engine was putting out 60hp more than the domestic ones and nascar wouldn't let them use it. they're just jerking them around so they can't complete. now you know why they're down on power and not competing the way people thought.. it's not that they can't make the power; it's because nascar is fucking them in the ass.

this isn't against you as a person, so please don't take offense. i just think what you said was a pile of horse muffins. i'd also like to point out that quality these days for domestics is all diamler-chrysler. if i were to buy a new car that had to be domestic, it would be a chrysler or a division there-of. ford and gm makes me want to vomit.
When you go and work in one of the Toyota, Honda, Ford, or GM plants here in the US and see what's involved then you can say what you want. Otherwise you have no clue on what is deemed quality or not coming from the plants. Ford gives us a set standard to go by in building parts for them. There are teams of people that all their job is to inspect and resinspect every car that rolls off the line.

I have a total of less than 10 seconds to visually inspect a fascia on the outside for any inperfection(s) in the paint, inspect the inside of it for fit on pressed peices, ensure foglamps are installed correctly, make sure support brackets, isolators are installed and secured, double check the item rotation number and part number, pick up the peice and place it on it's rack for delivery in sequential order, then run back and do the next peice. And your the expert on quality?? You may know people that work in dealers but get your ass out to the line and see what makes the quality, instead of hear say.

And BTW Nascar fucked Chrysler in the ass too....do some research and find out why.


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