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post #1 of 71 (permalink) Old 10-18-2007, 11:58 AM Thread Starter
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(in theory) 300M Special vs. Grand Prix GT

Not that I have any desire to race, but my sisters fiance has an '01 or '02 (can't remember exactly) Pontiac Grand Prix GT. He loves my Special and wonders if he could take me in a drag race. I'd say I should be able to win...having nearly 65 more HP (added 8 HP to base 255 with FIPK) to his 200 HP. However, my 300 weighs 200 lbs. more and seems to lack a bit off the line.

Just in theory, what is your opinion? I may one day get him out at night on some open road and give it a go for the fun of it. However, he is the personality type that likes to rub it in when and not let it go when you're wrong or you lose, so I'd rather not even let the chance present itself.

Other than my FIPK, neither car has any performance mods so it would pretty much be stock against stock. A little trash talking is fun, but it also helps to know you can back it up on the field too!
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Being that I've lost GTs on several occasions, I would say you have nothing to worry about. Line 'em up!
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Gran Prix ???

Does anyone even know what the rear end of a Pontiac Gran Prix looks like ?

All I see is the front end in the rear view mirror.

I think Pontiac dealers have some kind of small penis pre-purchase verification program for Gran Prix drivers.
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lmfao!
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you should take him with no problem! jump all over his @$$, then brag about it like he would.
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Looks like I just may have to go for it one day, then I'll just wear a little smirk on my face for him every time I see him!
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I roasted a Grand Prix GT in a full-fledge drag a couples month ago to 70-80ish. Not by much but I think it was also slightly modded, and that was in a stock R/T.
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My mom has a 2000 GP GT.
I've driven it many times, and of course, I've driven my car many times.
Despite the fact that my ES is a 3.5 Non-HO, I am fairly confident that I could pull off the win in a drag race with it.
My car feels a lot stronger off the line than the GT does. The only thing that 3.8 seems to be good for is roasting the tires, but my 3.5 does that pretty nicely as well.
Now if we were speaking of a GTP, then it would be a different story.

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Yeah, forget trying to go up against the GTP. So, even with all the power loss to the wheels that these big LHs suffer, I might still be at an advantage? How can you get more raw HP to the wheels? Any easy mods?
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APC pulley.. don't think that's easy.
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Stock 1/4 mile times:
Chrysler LH Vehicle 3.5L HO = 15.7 to 15.9ish
GM previous gen Grand Prix GT 3.8L = 16.6ish (some will claim faster, but I've seen about 5 GT's race the EXACT same times at the track I was at)

I've beaten a few Bonneville SSEI's and a supercharged 3.8L Buick Riviera. I've heard GTP's are lighter though. The Riviera races were very tight........I only beat him by a car length each time.

I beat a GTP fairly easily.........in my Laser




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The cars are close enough in capability that you could either win or lose depending upon driver reaction time, individual car condition, and skill level. The fisrt two are obvious, but think that just because your car is an automatic that your skill level isn't very important. You could easily lose a second if you don't know how to launch correctly. You also can't discount luck.

Slower cars win races all the time. Many years ago, during my misspent youth, I regularly took money from guys with faster cars than me. Funny how a yard or two on the line can really rattle someone. Even better if all his buddies are watching.

I wouldn't bother racing for bragging rights. If you want to do it, tell this guy you'll race him heads up for $500 at a track with timing equipment. He'll probably never bring it up again.
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I believe GTP's post very close stock 1/4 times as compared to R/T's and Specials.
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I've raced one before in my concorde with the 3.2L, lost by a car length.

The one time i showed to a track, there was a never style GP 2004+ that ran a 16.5 in the 1/4, so i wouldnt think they're much to worry about.

It will be a close race any way you look at it, but a good one!
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When in doubt try dragtimes.com
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