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From New York -- The New Nissan Maxima

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New York -- The Nissan Maxima

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One word.........."Ewwwwww", and I thought the previous gen was bad!


CVT with paddle shifters? WTF?




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One word.........."Ewwwwww", and I thought the previous gen was bad!


CVT with paddle shifters? WTF?
The paddle shifters allow the driver to select the fixed variator ratios, when in manumatic mode.
It is just AutoStick, with 6 ratios and 5.4:1 ratio spread, vs. 4 ratios and 4.1:1 spread.
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The paddle shifters allow the driver to select the fixed variator ratios, when in manumatic mode.
It is just AutoStick, with 6 ratios and 5.4:1 ratio spread, vs. 4 ratios and 4.1:1 spread.
Wouldn't CVT mode be faster?



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It is a nice ass car though!,

*Looks likes an ACCORD!
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Wouldn't CVT mode be faster?
In theory.
If the transmission starts in its lowest gear [it does] then the torque converter stalls up, then locks up, then the engine revs up to maximum power, and then the transmission slides ratios, it will be fastest.

But Nissan has programmed the automatic mode to not rev to maximum power until you pass 60mph.

So if you downslide the transmission before you pull out to pass, you can be faster. (point to point)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=9
I don't know if Nissan bangs the limiter in their manumatic gate. And didn't Nissan add a Drive-sport mode (just like this one)

9/11, still an inside job

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The Rental that I drove out in California was a Nissan Maxima with the CVT... Yes in both auto and manumatic mode, redline is hit... one thing is for sure... the CVT is a DOG off the line... I hated it I couldn't even chirp the tires. On the highway on the other hand... the Maxima was insane! I will never buy a car with a CVT unless that lurch that both the Altima and Maxima have is addressed.
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There's a lurch in the Caliber with the CVT as well. Let off the gas after hard acceleration, and it accelerates harder for a half second. Dog off the line too.



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Now that doesn't make sense.
The maxima, being a dog off the line, is understandable because the CVT with the V6 only has a 5.4:1 ratio spread, and needs to have good highway mileage. And Nissan doesn't want torque steer.

The Caliber has a 6:1 ratio spread, and should have sufficiently short gearing.
Look at the axle ratios of the CVT crowd.
Nissan Rogue, 6.12:1 (they are compound reduction)
Mitsubishi Outlander 6.46
Jeep Compass 6.12 (and does the low range increase that to 8.14)


The powertrain of the Caliber/Compass/Patriot need some clarification
1.8 + 6 speed stick + front drive (no balance shafts = no CVT)
2.0 + 6 speed stick + 'AWD'
2.0 + CVT + front drive
2.4 + CVT + 'AWD'

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Not chirping the tires makes sense.
The electronics are limiting torque from a dead stop so you don't spin the drive pulley sheaves under the drive chain.
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The powertrain of the Caliber/Compass/Patriot need some clarification
1.8 + 6 speed stick + front drive (no balance shafts = no CVT)
2.0 + 6 speed stick + 'AWD'
2.0 + CVT + front drive
2.4 + CVT + 'AWD'
When did they introduce the 6-speed manuals? The one I test drove had a 5-speed.



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They NEED a 6 speed stick.
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I like the headlights and tail lights. The rest looks like ass.
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