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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-15-2008, 07:28 PM Thread Starter
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An alliance would suit Chrysler well

I wouldn't be surprised if this happens. It's been looking like this for quite some time. It may already have happened if the Germans weren't so arrogant.

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An alliance would suit Chrysler well
BY MARK PHELAN FREE PRESS COLUMNIST April 15, 2008

It's hard to imagine two automakers whose product lines dovetail more neatly than Chrysler LLC and Renault-Nissan.

If the companies' latest agreement presages a deeper long-term partnership, it's also hard to imagine a better outcome for Chrysler and its workers.
Chrysler will build a full-size pickup based on the new 2009 Ram for Nissan in 2011, Chrysler Vice Chairman Tom LaSorda said, using one of its strengths to provide a vehicle where Nissan is weak. Nissan's Titan full-size pickup has never lived up to the automaker's expectations, falling victim to low sales and high incentives.

Equally, Nissan's agreement to build a small car for Chrysler should give the Auburn Hills automaker its best small car ever, and will probably provide a badly needed subcompact to compete with fuel-efficient models like the Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, Chevrolet Aveo and Ford Verve.

With a little luck, the small Chrysler could hit the roads before the much-ballyhooed Verve does in 2010.

Each automaker swears its models will have a unique design. The Chrysler may look like the popular Hornet concept car shown in Geneva two years ago.
Carry the logic forward, and it's easy to see other areas where Chrysler, Nissan and Nissan's French owner Renault can complement each other.

Chrysler builds the best minivans on the market. Nissan's Quest minivan is an also-ran. The Nissan Altima, on the other hand, is one of the most popular front-wheel-drive midsize cars in America, easily outselling the Chrysler Sebring and Dodge Avenger combined through the first three months of this year.

Nissan struggles to sell large SUVs, but is successful with its midsize SUVs. Chrysler helped create the upscale SUV market with the Jeep Grand Cherokee, but it lacks a winner the size and price of Nissan's Xterra and Frontier.

The symmetry flows up and down the product lines. From Nissan's portfolio of crossover vehicles to Chrysler's wildly successful rear-wheel-drive Chrysler 300 and Dodge Challenger sedans, each company is strong where the other is weak.

The companies fit together like dancing partners, even in areas like alternate fuels technology. Nissan's upcoming hybrid system and Renault's excellent diesels would help Chrysler, while the American company's sales volume and dealer network would help the Franco-Japanese company pay for the expensive technologies.

Executives at Chrysler and Nissan downplay any suggestion of a full-blown alliance, but engineers in Auburn Hills and workers at Chrysler's plants should keep their fingers crossed. They may never find another partner that needs what they do well and offsets Chrysler's weaknesses as well as Renault-Nissan.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Nissan ends up buying Chyrsler. I guess I wouldn't mind that so much, since I'd rather work for a car company than a Finance company.
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Yeah I think it's going to happen sooner than later. At this point it's better than the Germans. At least Nissan has some passion for cars (unlike Toyota). I guess it could be worse. I think the sooner it gets out of Cerberus' hands the better.
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You're telling me. The pricks at Cerebus want to get rid of all non-core operations, which includes my department. I spent four years in the plant chasing the line before I got out to transportation and I really don't want to go back!
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The alliance between Chrysler and Renault has history. Somebody remembers SIMCA?

Chrysler having a sub-compact from Nissan could mean a lot of fresh air (and fresh dollars) for Cerberus.

I am not sure how the alliance with China's Chery will work, but Chery's models seem to be, at least, interesting. And there's a lot of press about Chery's cars running on natural gas (another possibility of fresh cash for Cerberus in the future).

There's also some alliance in the making with Tata Motors from India, because of some system that shortens the timeframe for new designs to be in production.

But it wont happen on 2009 models. It's already September and nothing on the radar yet.
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I will never buy a vehicle created by an alliance from Chrysler and a Japanese company. Period. As far as I'm concerned, the last generation of the Sebring and Stratus coupes never existed because they were just Eclipses with a facelift.

The Japanese are robbing so much of what America has instilled in the automobile. Where are the flowing lines, passionate styling, and athletic performance? They've dumped them for "dependability" and "efficiency". Boring.

I really looked forward to the day when I could go buy a brand-new Jeep Grand Cherokee or Dodge/Chrysler's big sedan, but if they sell out to or allign with a Japanese company, I'll buy a used Chrysler and make it last forever.
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