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Well, I'm moving as most of you know... I asked for help with locating a trailer, and had no real luck in finding it. So, I started looking at other options. I had gotten a moving van reserved (just by phone call, no money down, etc). Well, I called Dad, and told him about it, he said he'd help me out... So with him on the way over I tripped over a Craigslist ad selling used moving vans... to my absolute surprise, Dad said "well, let's go!" So, a short while later, I was walking through a lot of 60 or so used U-Haul moving vans. Prices ranged from $1,200 up to $5,600 or so, from small little pickup trucks up through the big ones.

Well, we went out and looked at the $1200 ones... they are 1989/1990 naturally aspirated diesel automatic F350s with a 14' box. Just about bought one with some box damage, but they couldn't get the dual battery to jump off and start... so, we turned and looked at the next one they were using to jump the diesel.

It was a 1995 F350 with the 460 in it... Looking under the hood, it had a new AC pump, new fan clutch, new tune-up parts, new PS pump and hoses... NEW TIRES, and I come to find out that it had all new brakes installed from the master cyl to the wheels... 14' box, no damage. New galvanized frame extensions, bumper, hitch, and ramp assembly. There is a little damage to the body, a few scratches with rust, and the top center of the roof of the cab above the windshied has been stood on, and is crumpled down a bit and rusty... but otherwise, the interior has the vinyl bench seat, and has two damaged spots, the passenger side grab handle on the A pillar is broke, as well as the dash bezel that goes around the gauge cluster and steering column. Cloth head liner, carpet back wall (to cut down on noise), full vinyl floor mat, AM/FM OEM radio... crank windows, manual locks, cruise delete. I had to have them adjust the brakes before I drove it off the lot. It drives straight, but the steering wheel is about 30 degrees turned to the right. All good mirrors, no broken glass...

Come to find out from the guy at the rental desk, that the truck I got had been a rental ready truck for out of town rentals no less than 2 weeks ago!

Anyway, here's the pictures...

Only the last picture is of my specific truck, the others are very close to mine.















Capacity-

Empty weight: 7,540 lbs
Gross vehicle weight: 11,000 lbs
Cubic capacity: 602 cu. ft.

Dimensions-

Roofline measurement: 14'
Floor inside measurement: 10'9"
Inside width: 7'7"
Inside height: 7'1"
Outside width: 8'
Outside height: 11'
Tire size: 215/85 R16
Wheelbase: 161"
Rear door opening height: 5'8"
Rear door opening width: 6'6"
Loading ramp length: 10'
Loading ramp width: 2'2
Bumper to bumper length: 22'6"
Deck height: 36"

Features-

Air Conditioning
AM and FM Radio
Power Steering
Power Brakes - Hydraulic, Front disc, Rear drum
Fibreglass reinforced plywood
Estimated mile/gal: 12 miles/gal

Fuels-

Engine: 7.5 liter/460 CI V-8 gas
Differential & gear ratio: Nonlimited slip axle/4.56 gear ratio
Fuel tank capacity: 40 gal

The mod bug has bit, if you can believe it... I want to replace the broken grab handle and the dash bezel, add a tape player (for a tape adapter), make a GPS/Phone mount, custom labeling...

When I'm done with the van, my mother will use it, then we'll see what else... I've gotten to thinking - a mobile auto repair business - "The SHOP comes to you!" or a mobile handyman business... Who knows, but I now owe dad some money! HAHaHAHAHA

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I was wondering WTH anyone would do with a used rental truck... but starting a mobile business of some sort sounds like a good idea, provided the business can be successful.

Good luck, if that's the plan!
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LMAO, that would be one hell of a sleeper!!!

That 460 alone would keep at least a handful of gas stations in buisness just buy itself lol.
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Nice score! You could always start delivering furniture or pianos. Seriously, I always thought there was a market for mobile repairs, but I think the business model has some issues. Where you gonna park that thing?
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Nice work truck! Prime candidate for a Cummins swap!! It would be worth the gas savings for sure
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I was wondering WTH anyone would do with a used rental truck... but starting a mobile business of some sort sounds like a good idea, provided the business can be successful.

Good luck, if that's the plan!
Well, the first goal is to use it as a moving van... I'll be making two trips minimum, then my mom will need to use it a few trips, then if any other jobs don't work out, we'll see what I can do with it creatively.

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LMAO, that would be one hell of a sleeper!!!

That 460 alone would keep at least a handful of gas stations in buisness just buy itself lol.
Well, in a 7,500 pound moving truck, the 460 is working hard to move it - but burry your foot in the floor, and you can hear it wake up... I almost shoehorned a 460 into a Fox chassis Ford Fairmont 2 door coupe... that would have been a sleeper and a half! But, gave the car to my brother in law before I got any of the custom work done to it, ah well.

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Thanks! It will work out nicely I think - Just gotta load it up and drive.

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Nice score! You could always start delivering furniture or pianos. Seriously, I always thought there was a market for mobile repairs, but I think the business model has some issues. Where you gonna park that thing?
I originally wanted to build an open trailer, and put a two post or four post lift on it with swing arms to lift cars... the trailer frame was all open, so I could in theory back it AROUND a dead car, and pick it up with the hoist on the trailer to work on it... but that just got too costly... but when I'm done doing all the moving (and maybe kidnapping "uncanny's" car), and when Mom is done moving, I might just make something useful out of the truck.

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Nice work truck! Prime candidate for a Cummins swap!! It would be worth the gas savings for sure
Now, THAT sounds like fun! I wonder how hard that would be... I assume you mean the 12 valve first gen Cummin's 360?

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Very cool. I personally think this would be an awesome setup. How well is this guy setup for towing? I would not only use it for whatever moving needs I had, but I'd get a car trailer and use it to fix up and rebuild cars. You can pick up any parts and load them inside the truck and tow the car back behind it. Fix up, resell, repeat.

My life goal is to be successful enough in my career that I can turn wrenchs working on cars and reselling them (either fixing up or customizing) in my retirement.



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Now, THAT sounds like fun! I wonder how hard that would be... I assume you mean the 12 valve first gen Cummin's 360?
Lots of Ford guys are doing it, replacing the 7.3's and the 6.0l diesels, and some 460 gassers, with the Cummins. The 12 valve would be the simplest swap, since its a mechanical engine. I'd go with that for a boxtruck. The 24 valve is a bit more work, since its an electronic engine, but has way more mod potential, and more HP from the get go.

The nice thing about the Cummins, is they have replaceable flywheel housings, so you can buy one for a ford and swap it in...or...some guys are just running the whole Dodge drivetrain in the Ford...that would be your other option.


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OOOOoooooo I like the idea of swapping the whole drive train with a manual set up... It has an automatic right now... Automatic is nice for rentals at U-Haul, but a manual would make me happier for the fuel mileage...

well, let me get the move done first, and then I'll look at swaps... Fun stuff...


As for the idea of car repair, yes, that is the kind of thing I'm thinking of... I've done the 'buy a car, fix, sell, repeat" before, and it can be good if you can dedicate the time to it. As for towing, this truck has a brand new rear end from the frame extensions back, with a large heavy ball on it... so, it is ready to tow anything really...
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Well, I'm busy updating some other stuff, and came across this thread... thought I'd update the gang here.

I've completed 95% of my move. Two trips from Cedar Rapids, Iowa to Garrison, ND... 856 miles, give or take. The brakes on the truck were REALLY bad, as I discovered crossing the rain/ice/snow mix line in Fargo on my first trip... trying to stop with that truck while still in "D" or "R" took forEVER in the gas station parking lot. Of course, being loaded didn't help the stopping distance...

Speaking of loading... hHEhehehehhehe I wasn't just loaded, I was OVERLOADED - but only by about 750-1000 pounds. Most U-Haul trucks spend a good part of life overloaded though. Fuel mileage didn't suffer THAT bad, I got 8.5 miles to the gallon - not bad considering I was expecting to get 10. Took about $250 in gas alone, and spent the night once on the trip.

Anyway, I got to the new house at like 2 AM and fell into my wife's waiting arms. I promptly went to sleep!

I took about a week to get all unloaded, kinda set up the house, etc... Hung out with the boys, signed some papers, etc... Made friends with an old friend of her family - he's got a heated machine shed with a door big enough for me to drive into and stay warm and dry. He had jacks, stands, and air tools, and helped me get the brakes inspected - the rear brakes had been completely rebuilt with all new parts (including wheel cylinders and drums) - but the self adjusting hardware is mangled badly, the adjuster cables aren't over the arches, and the shoes are COMPLETELY DISTROYED - some of them had melted and were 'smeared' around the spline of the shoe, others had completely come apart and were laying in the bottom of the drum. New adjuster on one side, new shoes, and then some other new hardware, and $150 later, I was back on the road... The brakes still didn't feel right though - So I invested a TON of time into adjusting the brakes just right...

By the next day they would have locked up solid, I'd have to get out and lay under the truck (in the bitter cold 0F days), and with the brake spoon, back off the adjusters. I brought the truck back to the old family friend, and we bled the rear brakes - sure enough, one side was FULL of air. We drained maybe 4 ouces of fluid out of the braking system via the traditional brake bleeding methods. Kept getting minor improvements, and ran out of time to work more with it.

Drove back to Iowa at the end of the week. The truck sat for about 2 more weeks as I loaded up the rest of what I could fit in the truck - this load was primarily from the garage - so, it means it was giong to be heavy and solid... With the truck loaded down, I took back off for the final trek... Hit a scale, and got my numbers - the truck is supposed to be 11,000 gross... the numbers came back at nearly 14,500 pounds! I was a ton and 3/4 over weight!

Even so, the truck rode great, and fuel mileage was still about 8.5... respectable for how heavy it was run. Engine gave me no trouble, just a persistant PS leak, and every so often I'd have coolant sitting ontop of the intake manifold - but it would evaporate away, and I just kept checking the fluids nothing went too wonky, so I just let it go for now. - but the brakes were still bad - brake light wouldn't go out and stay out, even though the truck would stop with all four wheels...

I stopped and did a gravity bleed my self in all four corners, and I got air out of three of the four just doing it that way... No change in performance, and still no change in the random brake lock-up trouble I had been having.

At my overnight stop, I asked the owner to help me bleed the brakes - since I was staying at my brother's place, he of course helped me out! Bled all four corners again, but still had the brake light on. The brakes felt better, so I just hit the road.

I stopped a few times, but when I stopped in Fargo again and started the truck back up, the brake light went out, and hasn't come back since (except during a bulb check, so I know it isn't blown out). Sounds like finally the air bubble I had worked itself out. The brakes also no longer try to lock up via the self adjusters.

Got the truck to the house, this time by 10 PM and got to see the boys as I walked in the door. Got the house stuff unloaded from the truck now, the only thing left in my truck are the tools - I'm waiting for the drive way to thaw out a bit so that I can unload my tools into the garage - I've got a project waiting for me already *grins*.

As long as we're on the subject of new homes, I'm also already working as the new Dairy Manager at the local grocery store... Fun fun fun!
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Hehehhehe, those would be fun swaps for sure, but not in my pocket book right now. It was interesting to see what I could do it for though ($$$)... Thanks for pointing them out.

If I needed the truck longer, I would probably consider that.
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