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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-19-2010, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
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Car buyers shunning V-6 and V-8 engines as gas hogs

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Car buyers shunning V-6 and V-8 engines as gas hogs
Mar 19, 2010

Hyundai Motor America today introduced the all-new 2011 Sonata at the Los Angeles Auto Show. This marks the world auto show debut for the latest version of the popular midsize sedan, introducing Hyundai's "Fluidic Sculpture" design language. The 2011 Sonata launches with class-leading fuel economy of 23 mpg city / 35 mpg highway

Even though gas prices stayed just over $2 per gallon for most of 2009, motorists seem to have lost their affection for bigger engines -- V-6s and V-8s.

Five years ago, 63.9% of all light-duty vehicles has V-6s or V-8s. In 2009, the figure has fallen to 57.1%, including trucks, cars, crossovers and SUVs, according to a Ward's Auto survey. The trend is sure to continue. Some vehicles, like the new Hyundai Sonata above, have dropped their V-6 option.

This decline was still tightly linked to a tough economy in which 7.94 million vehicles were actually built for the U.S. market the lowest level in 20 years and 39.4% lower than in '08.

Meanwhile, the four-cylinder engine's share of the car market rose from 51.7% to 61.9% in just one year and even captured 14.8% of the light-truck share. Trucks saw a 42.2% drop in overall production, which is one of the biggest factors in the decline of V-6 and V-8 installation in all light-duty vehicles, since those are the engines that still typically power pickups.

The V-8, in particular, has fallen quite a way from its 88.9% share of car engines in 1969. It now accounts for only 4.9% of engines in passenger cars.

Hybrid powertrains in all light vehicles also reached an all-time high, rising from 2.1% to 2.9%, and diesels were also up to 3.7% share of engines from 2.1% in '08.

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...which just shows (again) that we, in this community, are not average American car buyers........
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V6 engines has hogs??? ughh not really. some people are really stupid
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I have driven 6 cylinders that get within 1 to 2 MPG of any four cylinder that I have driven. Regardless, what is the country coming to when 6 cylinders are looked down on. I think there is a conspiracy to push us all into Foreign matchboxes. UGH!
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I had a lease on an 09 Dodge Journey with the four cylinder world engine. The car wasn't big enough, so I gave it back and bought a loaded 07 Town and Country with the 3.8 V6. The van is much larger and heavier than the Journey.

Oddly enough, the van gets better mileage. It really is nice to have V6 power again while driving the family around.

The 3.3 in my Concorde is still doing just fine as well.
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As others have said this is mainly a misconception that smaller engine=better mileage. There is rarely a significant increase in mileage and sometimes a decrease in mileage with a smaller engine if vehicles are driven in a similar manner. Bottom line it takes a certain amount of power to propel a certain vehicle with a certain drag coefficient at a certain speed and gasoline contains a certain amount of power per given quantity. If you accelerate an 8 cylinder and a 4 cylinder at the same rate the 4 cylinder has to run at higher revs and the only additional drag in the v8 is friction from the aditional cylinders(negligible in modern engines) and increased weight (again minor compared to the weight of the rest of the vehicle) therefore mileage will only be slightly better with a 4 cylinder in a similar sized vehicle under similar driving conditions. Of course if you floor it in the v8 and accelerate much faster that's a different story. The only real way to significantly increase mileage is to produce a lighter (usually smaller) vehicle, reduce drag, or reduce friction in the drivetrain.
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Low weight to high horse power = better mpg if driven smartly. I had an s10 with the 4.3 and got great mpg when I drove it smartly(which wasn't often, that truck was a blast :briggrin Less the motor has to work to move the veh the less gas it uses.
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Heh, I used to average 20-30 mpg hwy with my 2001 Intrepid SE on roadtrips. That's as good as a Dodge Caliber with the 2.4L. My Magnum with the 3.5L averages 25-26 mpg hwy on roadtrips. That's as good as the PT Cruiser with the 2.4L w/auto. The PT Cruiser 2.4L turbo gets less. Cars with V6's that are lighter than my Magnum such as the Chevy Malibu, Honda Accord, etc. are getting 30+ mpg. Really, the only 4 cylinders that get really good gas mileage (35 mpg or better) are the ones with small 4 cylinders such as the Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris, etc.

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