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Sunroof "broken" and leaking?

This is a non-LH question, but it's generic enough. My wife's 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee has a factory sunroof. It works just like the LH roofs with a tip-up and a slide-back option. For a year or so, the slide option hasn't worked, but it will tip up. This isn't a huge deal, but it has also begun to leak badly. I assume the leak and the malfunction are related because it seems like it's not pulling down as tightly as it used to, but I could be wrong. Her car sits outside all the time, and it's possible the drains might be plugged??

I added some extra weather stripping at the beginning of the winter, but that hasn't seemed to help. I'm wondering if I might actually be creating more problems with that if it's blocking the drains. Where are the drains and what do you suggest I do to test them? Assuming they are blocked by dirt/leaves, suggestions?

Has anyone paid to have their sunroof repaired when it stops sliding? If so, how much does that repair cost?

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Hard to believe no one has had any issues with sunroofs to be able to help here! Thanks for nothing.

Here's something for the leaders of DInet to consider. What is your mission? 1. Is it to help people?, or 2. is it a social club? Either answer is fine ... it will just help you to know how to respond to people. A social club won't respond to someone like me who is not known well by the "group." A helpful forum available to all will respond regardless. Based on my recent experience here, I'd say your answer is #2. If your answer is actually #1, someone needs to be working a little harder around the edges because you are not living up to the intention of helpful forum. Food for thought.

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I, for one, have not had ANY "issues with sunroofs" because I've never had the pleasure of owning one.

As far as your dissapointment with the forum, I cannot realate. I have had nothing short of a blast, being a part of this group.

As you can see, I have been lurking, and contributing for just a year longer than yourself.
I find the forum both social and very helpful.
I would not have even considered my first engine swap without this forum and now I've completed a number of them.

I believe that the "leaders of DInet" and the members in general do an excellent job helping out and being sociable at the same time.

I'm sure you'll get a few replies from the forum, now and maybe one or two will have some suggestions for your sunroof problem.

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So we couldn't help you with your sun-roof - sounds broken to me, if you can't figure it out, and no one here has broken theirs, then you need to bring it to sun-roof installer or dealer for service.

You've already checked to see that your drain lines are clear, obviously you have other issues, and as you pointed out, they likely stem from the sunroof not closing.

You added weather stripping - that I can tell you is NOT going to help - it may have closed up some of the gap, but it is now forcing other things to stay open.

Pull your headliner out and look at it. Maybe you have something stuck in the track. Maybe you'll see something bent.

I'm guessing you've already considered the above, so I didn't post any of it sooner.

You likely didn't get any response because no one has has this issue and has no grand nugget of information for you.

DI.net wasn't included in the purchase of your car, and therefore holds no warranties, written or implied. It isn't a service - but at the same time, it isn't a social club - it is however a group of enthusiast that like the car and most of them like helping. If you find out what it is, post it up! Maybe the next guy can gain from you what all the rest of us have discovered and given to the board for others to gain from - MOST of the information on this board (before my time) was posted because people like you had a problem, and they didn't come here for answers - they came here to research a solution, and then work hard and find it themselves, and then paid back the research given by posting the answer and building the database.

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Harsh, but OK. I have offered thoughts a number of times, and no one seems to pay attention (for the same reason, I believe). Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe my thoughts are just useless.

No, I don't know anything about the drain lines. I think I asked (in my first post) if anyone knew what to do to see if they were plugged and had any ideas how to clean them. Crickets ...

As an FYI, I always search out a solution well before posting. If you look around, I have made very few posts looking for answers (a handout, as you say). The search function here is awful, and I have mentioned that before. Not saying it's an easy thing to fix, but it's bad - not usually helpful.

So, when I post, I need help, and I'm not looking for a handout. I've read posts from people tearing these cars apart from top to bottom. When I ask about a sunroof, it seems like someone would have had the type of issues I'm having and are just choosing not to answer because of the "social-club" mentality. Unfair criticism? Maybe so, but it's an honest observation, and I have been around here a while. With over 200 posts and years of time, it's not like I don't know something about what I'm saying. Ignore (or criticize) my comments if you must. It's your choice, but things won't get better if you do.

If I figure out my problem, I promise I will post back with the solution (as I have previously).
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I re-read your post, and I see that you don't know where the lines are, vs. having checked them - I do not know for sure where the lines go - dropping the head liner will show where they are, but if memory serves me, they are going down either the A or C pillars. It is not uncommon for them to clog with mold or mildew.

Use the custom Google search, it is better - but because so many other people have not used search and just started new threads (not you), then the search is made that much worse with stupid posts, that don't end with solutions.

I've posted lots of stuff that don't get any activity - or get activity after a long period of time. Not everyone watches all new posts - some people only watch posts they know answers to. I only replied with what I know at this point because no one else has and you've asked twice.

I know you have a few hundred posts - you're not a n00b posting for the first time - but to basically 'complain' about the forum being a social outlet rather than a solution center makes me want to tell you that you should call Chrysler corporate and ask for a refund from them... What warranty were you given when you signed up that said it was a guarantee that we'd fix your car via the net? You posted something, and we don't have something to offer that is any more solid than what you already know.

I'm NOT saying you have to pay for answers, but if you want to pay me $13.50 an hour to search for the solution for you, I've got a time clock program installed here, and I'd be happy to get you an answer if possible. Pay for Play contract - you owe me nothing if I find nothing. If it takes me 10 hours, you pay me $135.00 and I'll give you the answer when the money lands in my PayPal account.

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Ok enough complaining about how things get done around here keep it on topic and lets keep it civil.
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I agree. Thanks for your thoughts and for listening to mine. I could say more, but I'll leave it at that.

BTW, I just took a close look at the mechanism. I probably won't be able to describe this well, but it appears that when the passenger side (PS) closes, it doesn't "cinch up." There's basically a double motion, and it's only doing one on the PS. That extra cinch apparently pulls it tight. It appears to be that same mechanism that drops the glass to move backward on that side. Since this isn't working, it binds on the roof when you try to slide it back.

This is what is creating the leak because it doesn't pull it tight on the passenger side. I thought a little extra weatherstrip would help, but you're probably right that it's just forcing it up even more. Don't know what that means for a fix, but that's the problem.
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My guess would be that you have something that got caught and a pin is out of the track, OR that you have a worn bushing in the mechanism that is now not pulling uniformly causing binding. Or I guess it could be something bent rather than worn... I think you'll need to drop the head liner to really see the mechanism.

I know that someone here on the board is/was selling an entire sun-roof dropout assembly for $50... Maybe that would be your best choice?
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I "fixed" my wifes Cavalier sunroof....sounds like the same issue with the motion thing. I simply broke the plastic strips that move the sunroof, closed it down tight, and took her switch out. (she only opened it accidentally anyway) It doesn't work as anything other than a lovely view of the sky, but it doesn't leak either.

IIRC: all of the mechanics involved to move it are plastic except the tracks. Could be that yours have stripped from use. You could try removing the headliner, and looking at those while you're in there on the drain lines. You MIGHT be able to find suitable replacements in the scrap yard. (this might be different on Chrysler/Jeep vehicles, but on late 90's cavaliers, they are plastic)

Shouldn't be too much work to get at the inner workings if you're already going to drop the headliner though. Mine were all up under there near the forward edge.
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I'm wondering has anyone had issues with their drainage's to their moon-roofs being clogged or leaking? Are there drainage's that lead to the back of the car? When it rains a lot water collects on the floorboard of my back passenger seat area. I have to lift up the seat and pull up the carpet to dry the collected water on the metal floor area. While driving to town recently and it was raining hard, some water leaked out from the support handle (where you also can hang your clothes) onto one of the passengers. So I am curious if this may be a drainage that leads from the roof beams to the back area? Thanks any help would be appreciated. Wondering if there are any other threads with detailed information on how to resolve this. I also have a rust problem on the right side of the sun roof and will need to get this addressed soon.
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It's not an LH sunroof. How are we supposed to know what's going on with Jeep sunroofs?

Have you checked on a Jeep forum regarding your problem?
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If the sunroof is made like the one on a 04 Neon then it's most likely one of the arms popped out of the track. You'll have to get it opened and have a look at the track and the connecting arm that follows the track, it may have jumped out.

The leaking to the floor board is a clogged drain tube that runs from the sunroof to the A pillar and out.


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Ah, someone with experience similar to yours. Good.
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