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The Spirit R/T

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That was a fast little SOB...too bad they didnt drop that motor into the Neon R/T
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Re: The Spirit R/T

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That was a fast little SOB...too bad they didnt drop that motor into the Neon R/T
There is member on this site who has one.

The main problem with the engine is that if/when the head warps or cracks, there is no replacement available.
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But someone has gotten the neon head to fit. Those are a dime a dozen.

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That was a fast little SOB...too bad they didnt drop that motor into the Neon R/T
It technically IS the Neon engine. Just a earily version. Neons aren't hard to turbocharge at all. Especially with the SRT-4 parts.
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Re: Re: The Spirit R/T

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The main problem with the engine is that if/when the head warps or cracks, there is no replacement available.

I can see why...the first 4 valve/Cyl engine Chrysler Produced.


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i know someone who had/has (not sure if he sold it) but those things are nice...not to mention all the upgrades you can do
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It technically IS the Neon engine. Just a earily version. Neons aren't hard to turbocharge at all. Especially with the SRT-4 parts.

The bore is the same, and the lower end share features but the cylinder head is different.

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The 2.0 blocks (both sohc/dohc) are the same casting number. There may be machining differences for mounting?

The SOHC cylinder head is only used on the 2.0 SOHC. The DOHC Neon shares a cylinder head with the 2.4. The Avenger/Sebring/Eclipse 2.0 DOHC head is unique and has reversed flow.

The 2.0/2.4 uses the same bore and bore centers as the old 2.2/2.5. There are quite a few similarities with the lower end of the block of the 'new' 2.0/2.4 and the 2.2/2.5. However the cylinder head of the 2.0/2.4 DOHC is an outright copy of the Mitsu 2.0 G63 DOHC, while the SOHC version of the Chrysler 2.0 borrows heavily from Mitsu's early 90s G15 1.5 colt motor.
It's amazing how far their 4cyl have come along. The 2.2 and 2.5 in non turbo form were barely adequate, espeically when placed next to the 2.0. They say 2006? The last vehicles to use the 2.0 and 2.4 liter engines, with their 2.2 legacy, move over to the new Chrysler-Hyundai-Mitsubishi engine.

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Talk about a sleeper! Debadge one of those and change the body moldings back to the regular spirit ones then go embarass mustangs and camaros galore

Too bad it was built on the 2.2 block instead of the 2.5 (stroked 2.2) because I think they could've have improved it a bit with that. Basically the thing is '91 SRT-4.
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Ahhh. the Spirit R/T, in my younger days was my dream car. One of these days I will pick one up as a project.... dare to dream, Deeds, dare to dream
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I'm still hoping to pick one up some day...............either that or a turbo Caravan with a manual tranny :biggrinfl :multi:



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Huh? Wha? Some one woke me up from my slumber. Yeah, the Spirit R/T... I think I know what one of those is. And you don't need to de-badge it because only a handful of people actually know what it is. The only way you get a challenge is if someone sees your aftermarket gauges on the pillar, the 3" exhaust with no cat and the "wooooshhh" from the aftermarket BOV.

The head does have a tendency to crack if you still have the stock iron plugs. It usually cracks on the third spark plug area. They are fixable if you know where to go, but yes they are pretty much irreplaceable. I don't know if anyone has put the Neon head on a TIII block yet. I know they have done it for a common block 2.2 though.

I would prefer to go with the SRT-4 motor though. They have been using this motor for a while now (Mexico) and it is pretty strong. There are no known issues that I can think of and parts are plentiful. I doubt that this motor is a fit for the R/T but who cares because the SRT-4 is lighter and faster anyway.

The Spirit R/T is a cool car for what it is and when it came out it was hotter than shit. No SHO or M3 could keep up with this beast. It had its moments but now it is pretty much been put out to pasture except for the old Turbo Dodge guys who resurrect them and make them run 12's. I'd settle for high 13's myself. Anyway, if you have questions or want to reminisce let me know.
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