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05 Dakota Roadtest

http://autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=100693

My main objection, why remove the oil pressure, and battery gauge?
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No Hemi :icon_mad:
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They are looking at putting the Hemi in the Dakota in 06. It is going to be the Dakota SRT8.
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No HEMI. From what I have read, the front suspension would have to be totally reworked for that job. It would be most likely an SRT job, but nothing has been stated yet.
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Why even bother with the base V8, just make a regular fuel (87aki) version of the ho 4.7, 250hp sounds nice. Make that the standard engine with the 4x4 regardless of transmission, make the 3.7 V6 only with rear drive, again transmission agnostic.
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Even with a plant (in Mexico) that can make 480,000 Hemis a year, Chrysler is hard pressed to keep up with demand.

The 'shortage' is putting a crimp in Durango, Magnum, and 300C deliveries as the Ram plant right next door has priority on the Hemis (bigger profit margins in trucks than cars).

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No oil and volt guages due to peny pinching. Doesn't surprise me at all.
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Why even bother with the base V8, just make a regular fuel (87aki) version of the ho 4.7, 250hp sounds nice. Make that the standard engine with the 4x4 regardless of transmission, make the 3.7 V6 only with rear drive, again transmission agnostic.
Also I noticed the engine hp range is not spread out that much:

V6 : 210 hp
V8: 235hp
V8 HO: 250 hp

Some people would think it's not justified to spend the extra on a high hp engine.

A 300 + hp hemi would sure help!
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Also I noticed the engine hp range is not spread out that much:

V6 : 210 hp
V8: 235hp
V8 HO: 250 hp

Some people would think it's not justified to spend the extra on a high hp engine.

A 300 + hp hemi would sure help!
250+ HP for the H.O. It's been said that it's around 260 for it. And 325 lb of torque.
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at 250-plus hp and more than 300 lb-ft of torque
Plus it outtows a Toyota Tundra which is "Full Size"
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Also I noticed the engine hp range is not spread out that much:

V6 : 210 hp
V8: 235hp
V8 HO: 250 hp

Some people would think it's not justified to spend the extra on a high hp engine.

A 300 + hp hemi would sure help!
Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.
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Let me rephrase that a little, since most people are confused a little over that saying.

The higher Torqued engine of two EQUAL HP engines win races. On similar cars.

More importantly, torque at the WHEELS win races. Precisely, it's the function of wheel torque / mass that gives acceleration. (acce. = force / mass)

Cummins make 600 lb-ft of torque; takes 10 seconds to reach 60 (12 on dually). 18's in the 1/4 mile.

Honda S2000, 153 lb-ft of torque; 6.3 seconds 0 - 60. 14's in the quarter mile.

Why? While the Honda is pulling hard in 1st and 2nd, the Cummins, with its 3000rpm limit, is already in 4th. It's making much less torque per pound of body mass compared to the S2000.

Find me a 10 second car that has only torque. HP wins races, hp is a function of torque. High hp is either a result of extremely high torque (1000 lb-ft) at low rpm (3000 rpm) or moderate torque (say 250 lb-ft) at very high rpm ( 10,000rpm).

If torque alone wins races, Schumascher would be swapping in a semi diesel in his car!
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So in my car magazines, both the new Dakota and the new Toyota Tacoma are being previewed. Just that, the Toyota comes out looking like the champ of the two. Toyota claims that their Tacoma X-Runner will outlap a 350Z. Now that's a bold claim, but apparently it can pull a .9g in cornering and with it's 280 some horse engine, I don't doubt it could be a bad-ass mid-size truck.
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So in my car magazines, both the new Dakota and the new Toyota Tacoma are being previewed. Just that, the Toyota comes out looking like the champ of the two. Toyota claims that their Tacoma X-Runner will outlap a 350Z. Now that's a bold claim, but apparently it can pull a .9g in cornering and with it's 280 some horse engine, I don't doubt it could be a bad-ass mid-size truck.

That's also a horse of a different color. There is as of now no Sporty Dakota as there was an R/T in the Gen 3's. There is no word yet on a SRT Dakota.
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Wasn't the HO V8 in the Jeep GC 265hp&325 ft-lbs

The premium fuel VQ (for pathfinder) 270 hp & 291 ft-lbs
http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/200...er/specs.shtml
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