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Product Test / Forever Black

After talking to several bodymen I came up with what I hear to be the best treatment of black trim for long term results. Several shops recommended it. One said it will last as long as a year and one said a summer.


Most of us know how good Mothers Back to Black works and some of us know how good Adams VRT works. So I will compare results to these 2 products vs the Forever Black.

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$17.90 delivered

4 oz cleaning solvent
4 oz pigment



Applicator tip reminds me of a shoe polish applicator.



The test pieces. (window trim) These were given to me and are in fair shape. Will treat one with Forever Black. The other I will treat half with VRT the other half with Mothers Back to Black. Set them both outside in the elements and see what happens.




Mixed the 4 oz of cleaner with 1 gallon water.



Using a rag I cleaned them both to remove contaminants.





The instructions say to flush well with water after cleaning and allow to dry completely, so I will let them dry over night.

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I gotta say that I LOVE reading your product reviews Doug. Keep them up!



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Applied the Adams VRT, Mothers Back to Black and Forever Black.



I did not apply the forever Black per the instructions by using the applicator. Instead I used a cotton swab to conserve the amount I used. I followed it up with a brush. I think the applicator would provide a smoother blotch free look.



I applied 3 thin layers.

The Back to Black and the VRT went on as a heavy coat allowing it to soak in as much as possible before wiping off the extra.





I have to say the results are very very similar.
Hard to tell the difference, but with a critical eye........
The Forever Black is my barely least favorite


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Mothers Back to Black had the best immediate results by looking the most even and black.


Set them outside to weather a while. Time will tell.

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While the test pieces get weathered on the back porch in the sun......I decided to go ahead and apply Forever Black to the windshield trim I am unhappy with.


After cleaning the trim I masked and applied three even coats after each were dry. I love the look. Now if it only lasts!!! The other treatments have always let me down after a little while.











I will post results as I see the changes.

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That stuff looks pretty good. I wish there was something that lasted on the metal pillars and kept them nice and black!
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That stuff looks pretty good. I wish there was something that lasted on the metal pillars and kept them nice and black!
There is, but that is another thread about painting them.
I power buffed mine and they came right back!
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What compound or polish did you use when you buffed them out?
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What compound or polish did you use when you buffed them out?
Adams swirl and haze remover.
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What compound or polish did you use when you buffed them out?
Plastx works well too! I got that tip at the 300M Canada Meet a few weeks ago. I've tried it and I found it to be better than waxing.
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Day 11 since the treatment. It has been hot and sunny and the pieces have been baking in the sun every day. It rained once and I washed them once with a mild solution of car wash soap, rinsed them and wiped them, then let them dry in the sun.

The Forever Black piece still looks great.

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I wish Back to Black lasted longer. I like how it looks imediatley after application. A few weeks later, it's back to gray.
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guys,one word!! krylon!

i redid all my trim whti it,its bullets proof. comes out matte black,we use them at the paintball repair shop when we do custom stuff,matches a tippman a-5`s paint exactly.

i used a bench grinder and a wire brush to remove old paint and crap.then i use methyle hydrate to de grease. a few good coats and a 24 hour hardening and your done.
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how did this stuff hold up Doug?
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how did this stuff hold up Doug?
still looks nearly like when I did it. very impressed.


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I wish Back to Black lasted longer. I like how it looks imediatley after application. A few weeks later, it's back to gray.
I've just gotten used to the process of applying it every time I wash the car. Which is every time it rains. Which is every few days... good thing there's a lot of Back to Black in a bottle!
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