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Viper 5900SST alarm on second gen trep

We all know the stock alarm is crap in our treps. I've seen too many break ins and I had one too many. I want to get the Viper 5900SST alarm but how hard would it be to bypass the stock alarm and crap to get the viper working with the remote start and key less entry?
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I don't have the stock alarm in my trep but I am going to order the scytek 8000 soon and my installer told me I'd need a modulator box (I think that's what its called, ill post a link to it later) or they'd have to cut one of my keys up to install in the factory modulator because our keys are coded or something.
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Most tie in with the stock alarm so you don't have to bypass it, then add resistors to arm/disarm it. Remote start is just finding the wires and splicing, the keyless just needs you to wire in the correct resistors to open/close the doors. Viper has a paper with the resistor values floating around the internet for our cars if you do it yourself.

IMHO what makes an alarm good or better is the expandability of it, adding sensors so the car can react more to different attacks that it may get subjected to, that's one area where the stock alarm is very limited. Just buying an expensive alarm without putting the extra sensors like glass/shock/tilt or even a radar module doesn't do much for you but you don't need all of the sensors.
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Some how my thread got pushed into the show and shine section. Dunno how it happen.

Anyway, I was planning to add shock sensors and glass breaks to the setup.Just worried about the main part of the system.
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its a job for a professional
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It's good that you've decided to go with a 2-way alarm. Most people just ignore an alarm going off so they're not very useful. It's going to be best if you always know when it is going off, because you'll care enough to check it out. The 2-way also comes in very handy when you want to remote start the car but you can't see or hear it to know that it started and you didn't hold the button too long or not long enough.

I installed mine myself. It's a pretty big job and can be intimidating, but it's not overly difficult.
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I've wired been around the block once or twice when it comes to wiring stuff up. I've pretty much rewired my whole car because of the crapmenship of the stock wire harness. The only thing I have removed completely is the stereo and replaced it all with different speakers, wires and amps. Everything else is just simple wire replacement with higher gauge/quality and replaced the block connectors with universal connectors. So the install it self will be easy. Just wanted to know if I was going to get the stock anti theft system to kill the car.

Yea, I love the 2way setup. This way I can see if some one just made it go off from a loud fart cannon or if some one is really trying to break in. Countless times I've had co-workers come in telling me "your alarm is going off" then I have to go out side to the car (about 10 feet away) to turn it off. Also the remote start is handy to cool off the inside on a hot day before i leave for work or warm it up on a cold day.
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Well I thought about it and my best bet is to not get a viper alarm. I found a company called commando that works just as good, cheaper and has all of the parts needed. Since I would need a transponder to disable the old alarm and I want to add glass breaks and such to the car I can spend about the same price for the commando alarm with all of the bells and whistles then for just the alarm system from viper.

http://www.commandocaralarms.com/
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Yea, I love the 2way setup. This way I can see if some one just made it go off from a loud fart cannon or if some one is really trying to break in.
I agree. I have the 5900 installed on mine and it's a great comfort. In fact just the other day I was standing in my kitchen when the pager went off. I looked out the window and saw one of the neighbor kids was riding his bike near my car. Sure enough, he scratched the driver door. I went outside and the kid's father admitted he did it. Who knows if he would have owned up to it had I not come outside right away.

The 5900 has glass break/shock sensors included btw.
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Just make sure you have 2 sentry keys for your car or you'll have to pay the dealer to get the transponder bypass working.
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If you have the sentry key system in the car you will need a bypass for it no matter who you get the alarm from they don't put a universal bypass, nor does one exist, in with alarms. If you go to any shop and buy an alarm for $X installed you'll be charged $y EXTRA for the bypass and probably asked for a spare key for them to use.

The viper product line has a bypass module for our cars that can be had online for $30-40 no key required. I do not know how the cut-up key method works but as I understand it having the key taped near the cylinder defeats the sentry key ALL the time. The module only does it when it's powered which is when you RS the car and for the set duration of the run time.

There are a few different versions like 555y or whatever I'm not 100% this is for our cars but the module looks just like it run a search for the bypass module and you should find more info on it.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000808DC4/...p;linkCode=asn
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If you have the sentry key system in the car you will need a bypass for it no matter who you get the alarm from they don't put a universal bypass, nor does one exist, in with alarms. If you go to any shop and buy an alarm for $X installed you'll be charged $y EXTRA for the bypass and probably asked for a spare key for them to use.

The viper product line has a bypass module for our cars that can be had online for $30-40 no key required. I do not know how the cut-up key method works but as I understand it having the key taped near the cylinder defeats the sentry key ALL the time. The module only does it when it's powered which is when you RS the car and for the set duration of the run time.

There are a few different versions like 555y or whatever I'm not 100% this is for our cars but the module looks just like it run a search for the bypass module and you should find more info on it.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000808DC4/...p;linkCode=asn
Yes, if you have Sentry key you will either need a bypass module or you'll have to pull the chip out of the key and glue it there. Like you said though, this will make the sentry key disabled all the time. The important thing is where you say that they have bypass modules that are "no key required", this means that you don't have to sacrifice a key to leave in the unit. You do, however, need 2 keys to start with because you program the module just as you would another key using the "customer learn procedure". If you only have 1, you have to either have the dealer program a second key so you can do it or have them program the bypass module. It is an induction loop that mimics a sentry key when the remote start is activated. This means that you program the SKIM for it like you would any key, and the SKIM thinks it is a key and therefore counts it as 1 of the 8 you're allowed to have.
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Well I found the transponder bypass on the commando website. If it doesn't work i'll send it back and hack a 3rd key I got. One of my old keys got worn out so I ordered a new key a while back. Worn out as in the key's notches wasn't making contact to the pins.
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I would suggest that you go to a alarm dealer and by the Directed verison of the sentry key bypass. You can also get the door lock bypass. You will have to add a resistor to it and it will Unlock and lock the doors. Oh and make sure the ring that goes around the steering column is around the igntion. All the wire you need are under the dash and behind the fuse box. If you have T-Taps that will make your job easier.
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