OOhHHHH ok I think I see what the issue is here....
Thanks again PEVA,
I will definitely look for a harmonic balancer puller kit that has that donut in it, to keep the crank in position.
Let me explain myself better so you can understand what it is Im trying to do.
I had to replace my water pump because my car was overheating (at least I hope that was the culprit), so I unloosed the tensioner pulley from the adjusting bolts, and took the timing belt off the grooves of the camshaft pulleys. I then replaced the water pump (noticed the old water pump had a few antifreeze tears weeping from its weep holes)...
BUT THIS IS WHERE I THINK I MESSED UP THE TIMING...
After bolting in the water pump, I saw that the marks on the camshaft sprockets were not sitting neatly between the 2 dot index marks of the housing, so (with very little knowledge of how to properly time everything), I started to turn the camshaft sprockets every which way to try to get their markings to fit in between the 2 index marks. In doing this, it didnt dawn on me that (DUHH) the camshafts DO turn with normal car operation, so just becuase the alignment marks on the camshafts are not sitting neatly between the 2 dot index marks of the housing when you open the housing up, that doesnt mean the timing is off!! (I know... I shouldnt have done this without knowing exactly what I was doing). But at the time I didnt know this, thats why I just started turning the camshaft sprockets left and right, because at the time I thought I could get their alignment marks to smoothly line up to the index marks that way (smh what was I thinking!). KEEP IN MIND that during this whole process, I did NOT remove the Crankshaft Pulley ( I didnt even touch it), and with that, I did not (I couldnt of course) rotate the crank to TDC. And of course the camshafts DID NOT smoothly line up: The camshaft sprockets would just JUMP pass the area they needed to rotate to to get the alignment mark in between those 2 index marks.
(WOULD TURNING THE CAMSHAFTS LIKE THIS COMPLETELY THROW OFF THE TIMING?
Remember Im new to all this!
So in a nutshell, I was turning the Camshafts with the timing belt off of them, but I didnt bother to do ANYTHING with the Crankshaft (I did not EVEN take off the Harmonic Balancer) -- and the Crank was definitely not in TDC!
When I realized I couldnt turn the camshafts in the place for the alignment marks to line up between the two index marks, I just gave up, figuring they aren't staying for a good reason, so I put the Timing belt back on as tight as I could, put a compressed tensioner back on tight as I could (the belt was tight), plugged the negative battery cable back in, and tried to start the car.
AND when I turned the car key, all I heard was: reh eh eh eh eh boom! (not a loud boom, but a boom nevertheless). So it would turn over, the Timing belt was turning, but the car just wouldnt start!
WHAT I WISH TO DO IS:
FIGURE OUT IF MY TIMING IS OFF NOW (now that my car wont start), BUT THIS TIME AROUND, BY STARTING WITH THE ROTATION OF THE CRANKSHAFT TO TDC(as Im sure I should have done initially).
AND FIGURE OUT WHY THE CAR ISNT STARTING NOW!!
NOW Im HOPING there was no damage made to the Woodruff Key or Key slot that you were referring to. (I think maybe they Key is ok because I didnt actually unbolt or pull off the Harmonic Balance in the first place.
The car was starting fine before I started turning the Camshafts, So Im assuming the timing was fine before I starting turning the camshafts like an idiot. But now that the car isnt starting, Im pretty sure I threw the timing way off. I just REALLY hope I don't need to bring in a mechanic that will need special lights and tools to work on the electrical apsect of the timing. PLEASE CHASTISE OR CORRECT ME IF YOU GUYS WILL. I HAVE A FEELING I SCREWED UP ROYALLY. BUT HELP ME TOO!
Last edited by symphonic81; 07-09-2011 at 04:09 PM.