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Stolen 300M and SKIM questions. Kinda urgent.

A friends 2001 300m was stolen. Recovered the car but no keys. We took the ignition switch and door locks out of my '99 LHS parts car and installed them. The car started and ran for a few seconds. Did it twice. Now it won't crank at all. Can we swap over the SKIM module and ECU from the '99 and end up with a running car? Is there another route he needs to take? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
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You'll need to swap the SKIM module with the key from the LHS over; you should be OK with that; but if you have ECU as well, that would work too.

After two failed attempts, the PCM will lock and not let you do anything; newer cars it locks for a certain amount of time; older, and I forget the year break; PCM has to be unlocked with a DRB scan tool (someone chime in on this)....but thats basically where you are at.
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Thanks! We'll give it a try.
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You'll need the SKIM Module, PCM and Sentry keys all from the same car.
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3.2.6 SKIS OVERVIEW
The Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) is an
immobilizer system design to prevent unauthorized
vehicle operation. The system consists of a Sentry
Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM), ignition key(s)
equipped with a transponder chip and engine controller.
When the ignition switch is turned on, the
SKIM interrogates the ignition key. If the ignition
key is ‘‘Valid’’, the SKIM sends a PCI Bus message
to the engine controller indicating the presence of a
valid igntion key. Upon receiving a ‘‘Valid’’ key
signal the PCM will allow the engine to continue to
operate.
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3.2.8 SKIS OPERATION
When ignition power is supplied to the SKIM, the
SKIM performs an internal self-test. After the selftest
is completed, the SKIM neergizes the antenna
(this activates the transponder chop responds to the
challenge by generating an encrypted response
message using the following:
Secret Key - This is an electronically stored
value (identification number) that is unique to each
SKIS. The secret key is stored in the SKIM, PCM
and all ignition key tranponders.
Challenge - This is a random numbr that is
generated by the SKIM at each ignition key cycle.
The secret key and challenge are plugged into an
algorithm that produces the encrypted response
message. The transponder uses the crypto algorithm
to receive, decode and respond to the message
sent by the SKIM. After responding to the coded
message, the transponder sends a transponder ID
message to the SKIM. The SKIM compares the
transponder ID to the available valid key codes in
the SKIM memory (8 key maximum). After validating
the key the SKIM sends a PCI Bus message
called a ‘‘Seed Request’’ to the engine controller
then waits for a PCM response. If the PCM does not
respond, the SKIM will send the seed request again.
After three failed attempts the SKIM will stop
sending the seed request and store a trouble code. If
the PCM sends a seed response, the SKIM sends a
valid/invalid key message to the PCM. This is an
encrypted message that is generated using the
following:
VIN - Vehicle Identification Number
Seed - This is a random number that is generated
by the PCM at each ignition key cycle.
The VIN and seed are plugged into a rolling code
algorithm that encrypts the ‘‘valid/invalid key’’ message.
The PCM uses the rolling code algorithm to
receive, decode and respond to the valid/invalid key
message sent by the SKIM. After sending the valid/
invalid key massage the SKIM waits 3.5 seconds for
a PCM status message from the PCM. If the PCM
does not respond with a valid key message to the
SKIM, a fault is detected and a trouble code is
stored.
The SKIS incorporates a warning lamp located on
the instrument panel upper cover. The lamp receives
switched ignition voltage and is hardwired to
the body control module. The lamp is actuated when
the SKIM sends a PCI Bus message to the body
controller requesting the lamp on. The body controller
then provides the ground for the lamp. The
SKIM will request lamp operation for the following:
- bulb checks at ignition on
- to alert the vehicle operator to a SKIS malfunction
For all faults except transponder faults and VIN
mismatch, the lamp remains on steady. In the event
of a tranponder fault the light flashes at a rate of 1
Hz (once per second). If a fault is present the lamp
will remain on or flashing for the complete ignition
cycle. If a fault is stored in SKIM memory which
prevents the system form operating properly, the
PCM will allow the engine to start and run (for 2
seconds) up to six times. After the sixth attempt, the
PCM disables the starter relay until the fault is
corrected.

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Pay attention to the parts that refer to the VIN which is stored in the PCM.

You'll need all 3 Elements. PCM/SKIM/Keys that are already programed together. Otherwise it's a very expensive trip to the dealer to program replacement parts you provide if they'll do it at all.

All 300m cars have SKIM.
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Hope you're not referring to this earlier thread:

https://www.dodgeintrepid.net/46-chry...e-damaged.html

Good luck getting a 1999 PCM in a 2002 car!

Noticed you didn't give any details about the 300m which was in production from 1999=2004.

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