Chrysler 300M intermitten Start problems - Page 3 - DodgeIntrepid.Net Forums - Dodge Intrepid, Concorde, 300m and Eagle Vision chat
 23Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
post #31 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-03-2018, 10:34 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 31
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronbo View Post
Im gonna just order form Rock auto I`ll get the shutdown relay and the ASD relay...once i get them I`ll let you know what it did as far as fixing the starting problem
jrouter300M is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #32 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-04-2018, 12:44 AM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 31
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronbo View Post
just ordered the TCM ShutDown Relay and the Auto ShutDown Relay and Starter Relay from RockAuto should get them by Wednesday hopefully 16.00 dollars for 3 relays
jrouter300M is offline  
post #33 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-04-2018, 12:48 AM
Woober Goobers!

 
Ronbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Tiny Pebble, AR
Posts: 48,582
Feedback: 44 / 100%
                     
Probably could have bought them locally for about the same price without waiting.
Ronbo is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #34 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-04-2018, 02:11 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 31
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronbo View Post
Probably could have bought them locally for about the same price without waiting.
not a chance I was looking at over 30.00 dollars eaialy
jrouter300M is offline  
post #35 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-04-2018, 05:09 PM
Woober Goobers!

 
Ronbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Tiny Pebble, AR
Posts: 48,582
Feedback: 44 / 100%
                     
You're probably not going to like the price on the next items then. Possible Fuel pump.
Ronbo is offline  
post #36 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-05-2018, 02:10 AM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 31
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronbo View Post
You're probably not going to like the price on the next items then. Possible Fuel pump.
as stated earlier Had a Carter Fuel Pump installed about 4 months ago did not change the symptons .paid 65.00 for it brand new
jrouter300M is offline  
post #37 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-05-2018, 02:11 AM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 31
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
fuel pump is working correctly
jrouter300M is offline  
post #38 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-08-2018, 10:55 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 31
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronbo View Post
well got the new relays in car and no change......TPS and MAP sensors need to be replaced will do that this weekend if it`s not to Cold Saturday is supposed to be in the low 40s daytime and 17 for the low in the evening
jrouter300M is offline  
post #39 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-09-2018, 07:12 AM
Intrepid Fan
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Omaha
Posts: 160
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Ok so here's the thing. I hate to see u just replacing parts and not being sure. What if you replace the MAP and TPS and the issue is still there? Then you're out some money and still frustrated.

Lets go back a few steps. When it doesnt start, will it now NEVER start from that point unless you pull those fuses/relays? OR...are you saying it randomly won't start? Like maybe it didnt start, but if you wait a while, it will start?
Does this happen on First Cold startup? (Vehicle sitting overnight)
Does it happen after one trip or more trips?
Does it crank or will it not even crank?

Lets try to narrow down the culprit more as best we can.
The key here, is being able to TEST with a meter or scan tool at the moment it wont start. Are we losing our ASD relay power? Is the PCM sensing crank and cam signals? Do we still have our 5 volt reference to our sensors?

Just some ideas i thought of to try to help

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
UmmScott is offline  
post #40 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-09-2018, 11:22 AM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 31
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by UmmScott View Post
Ok so here's the thing. I hate to see u just replacing parts and not being sure. What if you replace the MAP and TPS and the issue is still there? Then you're out some money and still frustrated.

Lets go back a few steps. When it doesnt start, will it now NEVER start from that point unless you pull those fuses/relays? OR...are you saying it randomly won't start? Like maybe it didnt start, but if you wait a while, it will start?
Does this happen on First Cold startup? (Vehicle sitting overnight)
Does it happen after one trip or more trips?
Does it crank or will it not even crank?

Lets try to narrow down the culprit more as best we can.
The key here, is being able to TEST with a meter or scan tool at the moment it wont start. Are we losing our ASD relay power? Is the PCM sensing crank and cam signals? Do we still have our 5 volt reference to our sensors?

Just some ideas i thought of to try to help

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
First The TPS and MAP sensors do need to be replaced they are bad and going bad, now as far as the starting problem ,yes car does crank, there are times when it will start on multiple occassions and then it won`t unless fuses are pulled.....here lately on cold starts ,fuses have to be pullled wait about 30-60 secs. put fuses back in car starts right up, on occassions if i go to the store shop for a minute come out car starts up....one thing i was thinking camshaft sensor would not have to do with the ASD/PCM fuse needing to be pulled to start car would it
jrouter300M is offline  
post #41 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-10-2018, 11:52 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 31
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
I looked at the TPS location on the side of the throttle-body,and its a tight spot,anybody got any ideas or pictures of what all need to be taken off to get the OLD TPS offthe throttle body? do the throttle body itself need to be taken off the Air-intake or do I need to take the air-intake off to get to the screws on the throttle-body?

Last edited by jrouter300M; 11-11-2018 at 12:30 AM.
jrouter300M is offline  
post #42 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-11-2018, 10:40 AM
tgs
Intrepid Pro
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Stuck in Indianapolis until the end of time
Posts: 1,869
Feedback: 3 / 100%
                     
To give yourself room to work back there I'd start by
removeing the wipers (two nuts)
plastick cowl covers (nine screws)
strut brace (nine bolts)
and now you have lots of room
UmmScott likes this.
tgs is offline  
post #43 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-11-2018, 11:18 AM
Woober Goobers!

 
Ronbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Tiny Pebble, AR
Posts: 48,582
Feedback: 44 / 100%
                     
How exactly did you determine the TPS and MAP were bad or going bad? Did you have codes for them?
UmmScott likes this.
Ronbo is offline  
post #44 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-11-2018, 02:04 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 31
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronbo View Post
How exactly did you determine the TPS and MAP were bad or going bad? Did you have codes for them?
talked to a mechanic and described the symptons that I was having,plus the guy I got the car from never changed anything except a camshaft sensor and oil sometimes the TPS can be bad and not code....one thing that symptomatic is transmission shifts out of order, jerking when trying to accelerate, lose of power,engine revs up and down even when at stop light with foot on brakes surging
jrouter300M is offline  
post #45 of 53 (permalink) Old 11-11-2018, 02:42 PM Thread Starter
Intrepid Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 31
Feedback: 0 / 0%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgs View Post
To give yourself room to work back there I'd start by
removeing the wipers (two nuts)
plastick cowl covers (nine screws)
strut brace (nine bolts)
and now you have lots of room
yes thats what it looks like,once that is off lots of room,it looks like the screw on the TPS closet to the intake manifold it is very small cannot get a screwdriver in there, do the throttle body itself have to come off in order to get a clear shot at that screw? or maybe a small rachet?
jrouter300M is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the DodgeIntrepid.Net Forums - Dodge Intrepid, Concorde, 300m and Eagle Vision chat forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

Member names may only be composed of alpha-numeric characters. (A-Z and 0-9)

!!ATTENTION ADVERTISERS!! If you intend on advertising anything on this forum, whatsoever, you are required to first contact us here . Additionaly, we do NOT allow BUSINESS NAMES unless you are an Authorized Vendor. If you own a business, and want to do sales on this site via posting or private message, you will need to follow the rules. Shops, Stores, Distributors, Group Buys without being authorized will see your account terminated.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Rate This Thread:



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome