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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 08-24-2004, 01:18 AM Thread Starter
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Please help me with very expensive problem!

I am new here and don't know much about cars. I own a Eagle Vision Tsi 94.

It is currently in "the shop" and I have been given a quote of the work done and am wondering if I am being "ripped off" or not.

Basically, one day as I was driving, my car sounded like it was stuck in low gear and revving at about 40 mi. per hour. I knew something was very wrong. The faster I drove, the worse it got. I took it to a reputable transmission place. They took out the transmission and looked it all over, etc. and found nothing wrong with it. They also charged me nothing for the work they did.

So I took it to the dealer. First, it was $87.50 just for a diagnosis. The diagnosis was that it's something with the sensor, computer, or wiring (I guess they are all related?? I have no idea!). So, he had to go in and look at the wiring and take out the transmission to do so. To do this, he charged me $440 dollars. Not to fix it. Just to go in and look at it. Then, he said that I have a "bunch of shorts" in the wiring harness, and now it will cost $290 to fix the shorts, for a grand total of $723.

Does that sound reasonable? To me, the $440 just for labor looking at the wires seems VERY high, but I know nothing about cars.

Has anyone ever had this problem or can anyone tell me if this sounds right or not??

(Before this happened, I also had about a few mos. prior a problem with the key getting stuck in the ignition and the gas gauge doesn't work. I don't know if they are all related or not. But at this car place, they charge $87.50 per complaint! UGH!!)

I have been without my car for almost 2 weeks now and am so frustrated at how much it is costing to fix this!

Thanks alot!! I would really appreciate any insight, advice, or comments.

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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 08-24-2004, 01:22 AM
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I think you could find a new vision for that price! J/K.
I first would have taken it to AutoZone so they could hook it up to the computer. But that's just me. The price does seem kind of high but i don't really know.
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Thanks Rob. Actually, I did go look at cars this weekend, before deciding to have him fix it. What is Auto Zone? I haven't heard of that and don't know if we have that here where I live. But fi so, maybe that is something I can still go do.
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If they said it's the wiring, well then your harness has melted together and is basically shorted out. Some other members have had the same exact problem. What happens is that the computer senses the short and puts the car in limp mode (which basically 2nd gear) until the problem is fixed.
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OwnaVision,

I believe you did the correct things. Does appear to be a good transmission repair shop and then I would have also taken my car to a dealer. The prices and possible problem appear to be accurate to me as well. Yes, the car is driving in "limp" mode -- meaning it's detected something wrong.

I keep cars forever. My 93 TSI has 153K and in some ways I am attached to it more than my 2003 300M Special or my wife's Nissan Maxima GLE.

I won't go into a long explanation, but if you're happy with your TSI and there's nothing else major wrong with it, even paying $3K to fix it is better than buying a far more expensive car or even if you can buy another one or similar car for $1K-2K.

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I hope to god it wasn't your harness... If it was there's some sort of problem here... Mine did it, and i've also seen a few other member's cars do it..
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There was a recall on the transmision harnes on that year ('93s too). The harness is directly over the right tie rod. It can fall down onto the tie rod at will get rubbed to death every time the steering wheel moves. Chrysler caught this and installed a bracket to hold the harness up, but what I have seen on a number of LH cars I have worked on is this - The trans gets rebuilt at a trans shop. When they put the trans back in, the bracket is a real pain to reinstall, so they leave it out or they simply don't bolt it back up with the trans (it mounts with one of the trans bolts to the engine). If the harnes gets rubbed raw and shorts, the car goes into limp mode. As far as cost, if it's a dealer, that's about right. Yes it's rediculous, but that's what they charge. Most all dealers get $75 to $140 or so an hour for jobs that are not in thier book. All dealers have a book that tells them how long it takes to do a certain repair. Unfortunatly when it comes to harnes repairs, your on the clock because there is no way to know how long it takes to diagnoss a harness problem. The problem could be right in front of them, or it could be buried deep inside the car. Autozone is a auto parts store. We have them here in Denver and they will do a free computer diagnoss. Some Checker auto parts will do them too. It may be to late for that though if your car is apart already. :/ Good luck, hope it works out for you.
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