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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-17-2003, 12:17 AM Thread Starter
 
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2.7 with 190HP?

I read on the dodge website that the three engines available will be the 2.7, 3.5, and the 5.7... of course. These three engines don't surprise me, but the Magnum page states that the 2.7 will have 190HP... why? Is this done on purpose? This car will probably weigh at least 3800lbs. If I can afford it, I wouldn't be getting the 2.7 in it, but for someone that does, that engine will suck, especially with 10hp less. Maybe they modified the engine to produce less HP but more torque? That would make more sense. Anyways, maybe someone else has a little more info.
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-17-2003, 10:11 AM
 
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they probably tuned it to get more torque to get the damn car moving. the PEAK HP number.. at least with transmissions and gear ratios of today... really only affects the car when you can get the engine really revving and up there... something that you don't want to do around town. Torque rules around town.
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Really long intake runners

http://www.detnews.com/pix/2003/12/05/b02dcxjump11.jpg

So preliminary 190 hp (hopefully it will be an even 200) and gu-estimated torque of 205 ft-lbs

Edit: i would guess ~4000 peak torque, if only 190 hp, @5500. Sounds like the VQ30DE from the late 90's maxima

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makes sense... i guess. But unless this is something new that DC has finally thought up, you'd think that they would have thought about doing something like this for the intrepid since more torque would be good for the 2.7 in the intrepid. My stratus does OK, but I wouldn't mind a little more torque at the expense of 10hp. Anyways, thanks for the info... I guess we'll see when we get some more acurate numbers when the magnum finally comes out.

By the way, Is the magnum THE replacement for the intrepid? Is the intrepid gone?
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i have a intrepid se which has the 2.7 liter in it w/ 200hp and it takes me a long ass time to get up to 60mph so if they put that in a heavy wagon then it will be SLOW as hel
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only 4000 lbs:bigsmile:
the gearing will need to be shortened considerably, so that you just reach 60 before shifting to 3rd. there goes the mileage:mad:
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I think the Dodge site says a 2.81 axle ratio. That sucks in a heavy car.
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2.81 was for the W5a580 and 5.7 V8
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I was reading in Car and Driver magazine, they were saying the engine was reworked for slightly less horsepower but a much broader torque curve. Not really sure what they mean by that can anyone explain???
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More twisting force across a wider and lower RPM range. The engine will produce less peak horsepower (that is mostly unused anyway at wide open throttle) but more usable power at lower engine speeds (than wide open) where most drivers "live".
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This sounds like bunk, unless the peak torque is improved.
When the 2.7 came out (without variable resonance), Chrysler said 90% of peak torque from 2400 to 6100 rpm. The '98 2.7 has a 3000 rpm stall speed torque converter.

Maybe part throttle torque is improved, Does the 2.7 now have throttle by wire?
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the gear on the 2.7 and 3.5 (SE and SXT) are 3.90, those would make a nice addition to the R/T, which has the disgusting 2.82

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have you looked at www.dodge.com and looked in their specs for the car?
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