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Magnum Road Test @ Edmunds

There's a road test on Edmunds on the SXT Magnum.

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Full Test: 2005 Dodge Magnum
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...2663/article.- html
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When you take away the Hemi, it just seems so, I dunno....bland or something. Even just the non-R/T wheels really change the overall look of it. I can't see spending $27,000 for that, or $30,000 as they did, when the R/T is only another $3,000.
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Sorry about the link, here's the review from edmunds.com

Dodge may spin the Magnum as a "sport tourer" that defies conventions and redefines categories, but polish off the PR shine and the Magnum is nothing more than a station wagon, pure and simple. But while calling the Magnum a station wagon may be technically correct, putting it in the same class as the homely wagons from Ford and Volvo, not to mention the nearly endless stream of domestic behemoths that predated the SUV era, just doesn't do it justice. The Magnum takes what was up until this point the eternal damnation of car ownership and turns it into a vehicle that you not only won't mind owning, but may even enjoy.

How does it pull off this seemingly impossible act of practicality and panache? For one, its low-slung design makes it look like a cross between a family hauler and a '50s chop top. It may not be the most space-efficient setup, but it turns heads like a Ferrari on fire. The Magnum is also the first Dodge vehicle to take advantage of the Daimler part of parent company DaimlerChrysler. By using a suspension setup similar in design to that of upper-class Mercedes sedans, the Magnum is able to deliver ride and handling qualities that rival many sedans, let alone other wagons. Topping off the Magnum's impressive repertoire of talents is the fact that while it may look and feel unlike any other wagon on the road, it's still able to deliver the kind of passenger and cargo space that made wagons popular in the first place. It's no SUV, but as consumers wise up to the compromises those vehicles present, the Magnum offers an alternative that appeals both logically and emotionally.

There's no denying that part of the Magnum's allure is the prospect of getting Hemi power under the hood. Already a hit in the Ram truck, the 5.7-liter Hemi V8 has the kind of guts that every driver loves to have underfoot. The prospect of having 340 horsepower on tap in a rear-wheel-drive wagon is an undeniable draw, but we didn't forget that not every owner wants and/or needs the added expense of such a large motor. Our test vehicle was the midgrade SXT model equipped with the more sedate 3.5-liter V6 and a slightly lower sticker price. Not having the big engine not only brought the Magnum in at a more reasonable price, it also put more emphasis on the vehicle's inherent strengths and weaknesses beyond its ability to smoke the tires.

Even without the optional Hemi engine, the Magnum still isn't cheap. With over three thousand dollars' worth of options tacked on it, the final sticker price of our particular test vehicle ran just shy of $30K. For that chunk of change, it had options like side airbags, an upgraded audio system and a sunroof along with satellite radio, a roof rack and hands-free phone capability. Not every one of those options would be considered essential, but even without some of the more unnecessary features the Magnum is still slightly more expensive than your average family sedan and about on par with a midsize SUV.

But while its competitors may compete on price, they would be hard-pressed to match the Magnum's blend of personality and performance. From the minute you slip into the driver seat, the Magnum gives you the sense that it's more than just your standard family wagon. The seats are outstanding, with high-quality cloth, firm cushions and substantial side bolstering. Nearly every editor who got behind the wheel praised the comfortable buckets for their ability to hold you in tight without being too restrictive on longer drives. The black-on-white gauges have a much sportier look than anything you would find in an SUV, yet they still manage to give you all the information you need at a glance.

What really struck us about the interior, however, is how good it looks despite its relatively basic overall design. Unlike cars that try too hard to inject some character into their interiors through the use of funky shapes, colors or textures, the Magnum's cabin uses nothing more than a two-tone color scheme, the aforementioned gauges and a few well-placed pieces of metallic accents to spruce things up. The center stack is just about perfect with its symmetrical layout of climate and radio controls, while secondary controls are all within easy reach.

There's plenty of basic functionality built in, too. Large cupholders with grippy rubber bottoms are placed just in front of the console for easy access, while the console itself is large enough to accommodate a hefty load of miscellaneous junk. The door bins are about average and we would have liked a few more places to put stuff like keys, garage door openers and the like. But overall, there's enough interior storage to make daily usage manageable.

As good as the Magnum's interior is, it still commits the sin that stains all too many domestic vehicles these days poor materials quality. Confined mostly to the door panels and parts of the dashboard, the Magnum's cheap plastic trim is hard to stomach given its price tag. It's not glaringly ugly or brittle to the touch, but put the Magnum next to a Volkswagen Passat wagon and you suddenly realize how far from luxurious the Dodge is in comparison.

No such shortcomings present themselves once the Magnum is underway, however, as its driving dynamics are exceptional even compared to the well-regarded Passat. From the steering to the suspension to the rock-solid brakes, the Magnum imparts a feeling of solidity that few wagons can match. If you're looking for a wagon that won't remind you of its size every time you get behind the wheel, the Magnum is in a class by itself.

As much hype as the Hemi gets for its tire-melting torque, the 250 horsepower from the SXT's 3.5-liter V6 isn't exactly meager. Take a look at any comparable wagon in the Magnum's class and you'll find very few wagons other than Subaru's new turbocharged Legacy that can match the Magnum's power. Having lived with the same engine in our long-term Chrysler Pacifica, we are well aware of its smooth running nature, but with nearly 600 fewer pounds to lug around the 3.5-liter V6 feels considerably stronger in the Magnum.

That said, some editors still expressed disappointment with the Magnum's slow response when accelerating from a stop. "I found the V6 surprisingly capable for the most part," one editor wrote, "but when it came to getting up to speed from a stop the Magnum was asleep off the line." The high-revving nature of the overhead cam engine is partly to blame as it doesn't begin to hit its stride until around 3,500 rpm, but the V6 is also saddled with a four-speed automatic transmission while the Hemi gets a more flexible five-speed. Not only is the four-speed a little lazy on downshifts, but we also noticed a few clunky gear changes that left us less than confident in its performance.

There's definitely no lack of confidence when it comes to the brakes, as the Magnum's four-wheel discs provide the kind of immediate stopping power typically found only in high-end European sedans. It's not often that a vehicle's brakes stand out enough to elicit comments, but every editor who put in some seat time remarked on the Magnum's powerful and easily modulated pedal feel.

Similar comments were directed toward the Magnum's suspension as it yields the kind of balance between comfort and control that we tend to associate with cars costing thousands more. Tight steering, minimal body roll and excellent road feel give the Magnum an intangible solidity on the road that makes it feel less like a wagon and more like a sport sedan. It's not harsh enough to make passengers complain, but the fact that it doesn't wallow through turns, get skittish over rough pavement or float on the freeway makes it handle like no wagon we've ever driven.

As sporty as the Magnum feels through the wheel, however, it doesn't force a compromise when it comes to delivering on the more menial aspects of its wagon configuration. The cabin is spacious for the driver and passengers alike, with the rear seats standing out as particularly accommodating even for taller passengers. With five more inches of rear legroom than most of its competitors, the Magnum really lets you stretch out in back. The bench seat isn't quite as accommodating as the terrific buckets up front, but two adults could spend considerable time in back without complaint.

As with nearly all modern wagons and sedans, the rear seats fold flat for added cargo room. In the Magnum's case, dropping both rear seats opens up 71.6 cubic feet of cargo space, putting it on par with most other midsize wagons and slightly below most midsize SUVs. With the seats up, the Magnum's cargo bay is reduced to 27.2 cubic feet, but a flat load floor and an oversized hatch opening make it seem bigger. Taking a page from the minivan handbook, the Magnum also offers an optional cargo organizer that provides multiple bins and cargo nets to keep groceries and other easily spillable items in place. We used the organizer on more than one occasion and found that it worked as advertised, keeping a picnic full of Fourth of July groceries in place despite repeated attempts to dislodge them.

While family-friendliness is appreciated, advanced safety equipment is required for any legitimate wagon. We would have liked Dodge to offer a full array of safety equipment as standard equipment on all Magnum models, but instead you'll need to upgrade to the SXT to get features like traction control, antilock brakes and electronic stability control. Side curtain airbags are an available option across the board. Given the Magnum's already surefooted handling and massive stopping power, the addition of stability control and multiple airbags should make it as safe as any family sedan in its class.

With so many things going for it, the Magnum certainly presents a unique, if not wholly original, alternative for families who don't need seating for eight or any semblance of off-road capability. Although an all-wheel-drive version will be offered later in the model year, the Magnum certainly isn't a vehicle that tries to project an image as anything else other than a functional and stylish street wagon. That may seem like an awkward place to be given America's endless love of all things gigantic and unnecessary, but the Magnum is so good at it that it might just change your mind it certainly changed ours.

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Thanks I was wondering if the SXT had a hemi because this idiot at work who has an SXT has a it's got a hemi sticker on his bumper ... man that's rice squared
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Thanks I was wondering if the SXT had a hemi because this idiot at work who has an SXT has a it's got a hemi sticker on his bumper ... man that's rice squared

Technically, the 3.5L engine IS a hemispherical head.... you could give him that much credit..


but really, I would give it Rice ^ 3
as "squared" almost sounds cool.....
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Uh... the 3.5 sure don't run like that Hemi...more like the 'Trep R/T
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Uh... the 3.5 sure don't run like that Hemi...more like the 'Trep R/T
No way it's a lot heavier than an Intrepid. I wonder how Dodge dealers are faring getting stuck with the Magnum as a replacement for the Intrepid. So the 300 sales are okay but that doesn't help the local Dodge dealer.
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