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Intrep_ED 02-25-2017 10:19 AM

Ed's 1980 Chrysler Cordoba
 
So after the RX8 died last year, and after getting rid of it, we've been a one car family for the last year or so (the GF's Honda Civic) which is fine for us, and has been practical as far as our needs go.

But, being a car guy at heart, I needed (read: "wanted") something to tinker with. I've been wanting an older domestic car, that's easy to work on. Something big, like my old Lincoln Mark VII. So I saved up a little money and started looking around on CL. It came down to two cars; the first was an 82 Olds Delta 88, but that car was from up north, so it had tons of rust so I passed on it... then, I found it... a 1980 Chrysler Cordoba with the 318 (5.2L) V8 and the 2 barrel carb. All original (I think), and has been a Florida car all it's life! (there's paperwork from the 80's in the glovebox from Palatka, FL.) The paint and body is I'd say 8/10 and everything works; power windows and locks, all the lights including the side "opera" lights work, and the engine runs great! I took it for a test drive around the block and it just felt good, and being a Mopar, I knew that this was the one.

He was asking $1900 for it. I offered $1500, and ended up shaking hands at $1600.

So I am now the proud new owner of a 1980 Chrysler Cordoba!

It was kind of dirty, so I've spent a few days cleaning her up to take pics and properly present her. The original paint is in really good shape for being 37 years old! I was actually able to put a coat of wax on her.

http://i.imgur.com/xnZ0u6k.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yCQeB7X.jpg

'I've got me a Chrysler.. it's as big as a whale...'

Yeah, no doubt... this thing is THE definition of 'Land Yacht"!

http://i.imgur.com/9WzyO59.jpg

The "Rich Corinthian Leather" (yeah the seats need to be re-upholstered, but they're not in terrible shape for their age.

http://i.imgur.com/liGMRS6.jpg

Ok... two things that actually do not work:

1. the A/C compressor is shot. I'm still trying to decide on whether to try and fix the A/C, or just remove everything A/C related.

2. the heater core has been bypassed. Obviously it must have leaked or something, but you can see where the heater hoses are cut off and spliced together. Not a big deal for me here in FL.


http://i.imgur.com/sDGqx40.jpg

The original "Lean Burn" carb setup has been removed already, and everything converted to a solid state electronic ignition system. You can see the ECU box on the left hand side of the engine bay.

Intrep_ED 02-25-2017 10:46 AM

So I've just been in Mopar heaven with this car for the first week having it. Of course I've been driving it like an old man (well, I am 48 this year!) and it's been running great... but then all of a sudden, yesterday, the transmission started acting up when I arrived at work, put it in reverse to back into my parking spot and started bucking and shuddering. :/ I checked the tranny fluid with the car in Neutral while it was still warm and running and it was full (a little OVER full actually) and the color was a good blood red.

Of course I had to start work, so I just parked it and had to wait until I got off work. When 5 o'clock came, I went out and started her up. I let her warm up a little, and again, checking the tranny fluid (was still the same). So I left work, and started driving her home. Everything seemed fine at first, until I got a couple miles down the road, when suddenly I felt the transmission slipping (the engine was revving, but the car was slowing down!) so I backed of the gas and let the car slow down a little more, (like 20mph) and it kicked into 1st (I think) but then soon after, I had nothing. I tried shifting it into low 1 and 2... into neutral and back into drive, still nothing. So I ended up having to pull off the road and called my buddy to come tow me home.

So that's where I'm at. I've got the car in my driveway and think I need to find a transmission for it. I'm not upset about it, it IS a 37 year old car! I'm just wondering if the guy that sold it to me knew about something and didn't tell me (like he put some Lucas tranny fix in there just so it wouldn't slip long enough to sell it lol) Or, if the transmission just coincidentally decided to go out a week after buying it? Hmmm

So, my questions for you guys are; should I try maybe adjusting the bands, and doing a fluid flush/fill and filter, or does the major slipping I described sound like I just need to go ahead and locate a replacement tranny? If so, which trannys out of which cars will be a direct bolt up swap for this car with the 318? Mine has the column shift btw..

I believe this one is a A904 TorqueFlite?



No leaks, no puddles on the ground underneath the car at work, nor in the driveway at home.

Intrep_ED 02-25-2017 10:48 AM

I did want something to tinker with...

Daytrepper 02-25-2017 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrep_ED (Post 4112362)
So I've just been in Mopar heaven with this car for the first week having it. Of course I've been driving it like an old man (well, I am 48 this year!) and it's been running great... but then all of a sudden, yesterday, the transmission started acting up when I arrived at work, put it in reverse to back into my parking spot and started bucking and shuddering. :/ I checked the tranny fluid with the car in Neutral while it was still warm and running and it was full (a little OVER full actually) and the color was a good blood red.

Of course I had to start work, so I just parked it and had to wait until I got off work. When 5 o'clock came, I went out and started her up. I let her warm up a little, and again, checking the tranny fluid (was still the same). So I left work, and started driving her home. Everything seemed fine at first, until I got a couple miles down the road, when suddenly I felt the transmission slipping (the engine was revving, but the car was slowing down!) so I backed of the gas and let the car slow down a little more, (like 20mph) and it kicked into 1st (I think) but then soon after, I had nothing. I tried shifting it into low 1 and 2... into neutral and back into drive, still nothing. So I ended up having to pull off the road and called my buddy to come tow me home.

So that's where I'm at. I've got the car in my driveway and think I need to find a transmission for it. I'm not upset about it, it IS a 37 year old car! I'm just wondering if the guy that sold it to me knew about something and didn't tell me (like he put some Lucas tranny fix in there just so it wouldn't slip long enough to sell it lol) Or, if the transmission just coincidentally decided to go out a week after buying it? Hmmm

So, my questions for you guys are; should I try maybe adjusting the bands, and doing a fluid flush/fill and filter, or does the major slipping I described sound like I just need to go ahead and locate a replacement tranny? If so, which trannys out of which cars will be a direct bolt up swap for this car with the 318? Mine has the column shift btw..

I believe this one is a A904 TorqueFlite?



No leaks, no puddles on the ground underneath the car at work, nor in the driveway at home.

Sucks about the transmission.

If it died like that on the road theres no simple repair, I would just have the original trans rebuilt and be done with it. Hard to say exactly what it is without tearing the trans down, but its definitely more than a band adjustment. If you remove/install the trans yourself make sure the trans cooler gets cleaned out if it has one.

Intrep_ED 02-25-2017 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daytrepper (Post 4112378)
Sucks about the transmission.

If it died like that on the road theres no simple repair, I would just have the original trans rebuilt and be done with it. Hard to say exactly what it is without tearing the trans down, but its definitely more than a band adjustment. If you remove/install the trans yourself make sure the trans cooler gets cleaned out if it has one.

Thanks Dan. Well, rebuilding a transmission is beyond my automotive skills, so I guess I need to find somewhere that does them around here. It's probably a lot cheaper to just bring them the trans rather than the whole car and have them remove/install it wouldn't you say?

Daytrepper 02-25-2017 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrep_ED (Post 4112386)
Thanks Dan. Well, rebuilding a transmission is beyond my automotive skills, so I guess I need to find somewhere that does them around here. It's probably a lot cheaper to just bring them the trans rather than the whole car and have them remove/install it wouldn't you say?

I'd price it both ways.

You are good with the ol' Cordoba. Simple transmission to rebuild, simple to pull out of the car. Might not be too much more just to carry the whole car to them and have em do it.

Intrep_ED 02-25-2017 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daytrepper (Post 4112394)
I'd price it both ways.

You are good with the ol' Cordoba. Simple transmission to rebuild, simple to pull out of the car. Might not be too much more just to carry the whole car to them and have em do it.

I called around and got some quotes of $1500-$1800 to pull, rebuild and reinstall at name brand places like AAMCO and Mr. Transmission. One local guy at a mom and pop tranny shop said parts for these old trans are "getting really rare".

Then, I stumbled across this:

1980 CHRYSLER CORDOBA - Transmission, Transaxle Automatic Transmission, 8-318 5.2L, 5-Years Warranty - Car Monkeys


$789.99 with free shipping right to my door? Is this site a scam or what?

Edit: Nevermind! I checked the BBB and they have a score of "F"!

Daytrepper 02-25-2017 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrep_ED (Post 4112402)
I called around and got some quotes of $1500-$1800 to pull, rebuild and reinstall at name brand places like AAMCO and Mr. Transmission. One local guy at a mom and pop tranny shop said parts for these old trans are "getting really rare".

Then, I stumbled across this:

1980 CHRYSLER CORDOBA - Transmission, Transaxle Automatic Transmission, 8-318 5.2L, 5-Years Warranty - Car Monkeys


$789.99 with free shipping right to my door? Is this site a scam or what?

$789.99 for a used transmission? Run away, screaming, with your arms flailing, IMO....:runfire:

Lots of classic car guys still run the A904's and the 727's, which you could upgrade to if you wanted. 727 is pretty much the same just a little beefier, but if the A904 lasted this long, you may want to just stick with it. If you want to keep the car, have it rebuilt locally. Getting a used one isnt the best idea, just because of how old the "newest" used one would be.

Intrep_ED 02-25-2017 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daytrepper (Post 4112394)
I'd price it both ways.

You are good with the ol' Cordoba. Simple transmission to rebuild, simple to pull out of the car. Might not be too much more just to carry the whole car to them and have em do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daytrepper (Post 4112410)
$789.99 for a used transmission? Run away, screaming, with your arms flailing, IMO....:runfire:

Lots of classic car guys still run the A904's and the 727's, which you could upgrade to if you wanted. 727 is pretty much the same just a little beefier, but if the A904 lasted this long, you may want to just stick with it. If you want to keep the car, have it rebuilt locally. Getting a used one isnt the best idea, just because of how old the "newest" used one would be.

lol yeah, see my edit above... that site is a cash grab. They have very poor reviews on the BBB and a big "F" score

Daytrepper 02-25-2017 12:01 PM

Likely more than you need; but this would be a nice upgrade:

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/t...8z0aAj9q8P8HAQ

There is this one too; and they are in Florida:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/1725430...&ul_noapp=true

Intrep_ED 02-25-2017 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daytrepper (Post 4112426)
Likely more than you need; but this would be a nice upgrade:

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/t...8z0aAj9q8P8HAQ

There is this one too; and they are in Florida:

chrysler 904 or 727 transmissions all rebuilt with h/d parts | eBay

Hmm those look pretty good actually! Thx Dan.

Now you've got me thinking about finding a 360 (5.9) Magnum to drop in there lol

Intrep_ED 02-25-2017 12:17 PM

Seriously though, that 2nd one, the ebay seller in FL. looks pretty good. Might be the better (less expensive) alternative than having a trans shop rebuild this one. They look like they have good ratings on ebay etc.

Now I just need to figure out which one. A 904 or 727?

Daytrepper 02-25-2017 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intrep_ED (Post 4112442)
Seriously though, that 2nd one, the ebay seller in FL. looks pretty good. Might be the better (less expensive) alternative than having a trans shop rebuild this one. They look like they have good ratings on ebay etc.

Now I just need to figure out which one. A 904 or 727?

swaping out a 904 for a 727? - Moparchat - Home of MOPAR enthusiasts worldwide!

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparf...mission.17287/

You'd need a shorter driveshaft and a new slip yoke to run the 727. Easily done at a driveshaft shop. Not sure if the shift linkage is a direct swap.

Intrep_ED 02-25-2017 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daytrepper (Post 4112450)
swaping out a 904 for a 727? - Moparchat - Home of MOPAR enthusiasts worldwide!

Your 'Guide' to the 727/904 transmission | For B Bodies Only Classic Mopar Forum

You'd need a shorter driveshaft and a new slip yoke to run the 727. Easily done at a driveshaft shop. Not sure if the shift linkage is a direct swap.

Ah ha! That's the info I was looking for right there. (your 2nd link) So I guess I have the 904 for sure then, seeing as I have the small block 318.

Yeah I wasn't totally sure if I had the 904 or the 727 trans, but that thread explains a lot.

Thank you Dan!

Ronbo 02-25-2017 05:26 PM

Drop a Hell Cat 707HP in it!

The mighty Chrysler Cordoba. Sucks that you've only had it a week and the transmission puked.

BTW your pictures were up earlier but now that I've come back to the thread again they're all broken links? What are you hosting them with?


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