[Djnrg]

Hey guys. I want to lower my car this summer but I am not sure whether to go with Eibach or Intrax lowering springs. I have some sweet chrome rims, but unfortunately they are on 16", and I want to put low-profile tires on them, so I don't want that big of a gap in the wheel well. So my questions are: I know Eibach are great, but have a little bounce with KYB Struts, how are Intrax springs? And if you have them, are you happy with them? Second question, if I only use 16" rims, and have low-profile tires on, will there be a big ugly gap with the eibach springs, or should I go with Intrax since they lower the car a little more than the Eibachs. When it comes down to it, I just want great handling, so even if there is a bit of wheel well gap, thats okay.

Any advice?

Thanks guys.

P.S. What kind of struts should I use with Intrax? I will probably go with KYB for the Eibach's.

 

[jnutz]

Rumor has it that Eibach has D/C'd the Intrepid spring. So that would mean Intrax would be the way to go. However with those I believe that unless you change to their motor and tranny mounts, you run into cvshaft trouble.Have not gone with either so this is educated hearsay. However with lower profile tires your speedo is going to be screwed up.

 

[p3]

Originally posted by jnutz:
However with lower profile tires your speedo is going to be screwed up.

Not if you upsize your rims correctly. For every 10mm smaller you go on the sidewall go 1" bigger on the rims size.

 

[1mz-fe]

rumor is correct as far as i know, but the eibachs can still be found, you just might have to make a few calls. i'd say the eibach is a better go, just take a look at the MathWiz or Mr. Buschman's rides and tell me. in my ever-so-humble opinion the intrax is too much drop for this car and looks funny. i've heard it bounces like a ricer as well.

 

[Dodge4life]

I got the intax springs w/o the upgrading the stuts, (I'm in high school so somethings had to be passed up). Anyways the springs are fine, I like em. The ride isn't any worse at all. The car does shake every once and a while. However it doesn't bother me.

 

[p3]

How much are lowering springs for these cars (any brand) and how much do they drop the car? i cant have it dropped a whole lot due to my side exhaust.

 

[Dodge4life]

Intrax is 1.8 inches and if I remember right eibach was 1.3 inches, but I'm not completely positive. Im sure you can find it in one of the older posts about this subject

 

[ATFCharger]

nice altezza pics on your site, Dodge4life.

 

[Dodge4life]

yea, hope you don't mind. Its a great idea, but I have to deal w/ a blown head gasket first, before I can start on the tailights

 

[ATFCharger]

no problem at all

 

[austinreed21]

-DODGE4LIFE-
you say that you have intrax springson your car w/o replacing the shocks? Is that bad in anyway for the tires or anything-does it make em wear any fast or anything? does it do anything to a CV joint or something that i keep hearing it will cause to fail? cus i am in high school too w/ very little $$$, and was wondering if you could safely lower the car w/o having to buy shocks and not having to buy new tires every other month because of the wear. i have OE wheels and prolly gonna keep it that way (no $$$) thanks

 

[Dodge4life]

I'm certain that lowering hurts the CV joints, so I'll see how long they last b4 getting the the Intrax CV joints. As for tire wear, I have no clue, my tires seem to wear as normal. I haven't had the setup too alfully long to tell though.

 

[gr8crash]

lowering a car has not effect on tires, why would it? they haven't changed in any way, not differnt load or force on them, the car is just lower. and as to lowering a car effecting cv joints? io have never heard of that either, if anything i would think it wouldn't hurt cuz it is putting the axxles more inline with each other, if you look at them now they are nagled a bit aren't there? if anything it will put them inline a lil more it is only 1 inch. and the cv joints are suppose to work properly at certian angeles and i doubt that with the eibachs you'd notice a problem in any way

 

[jnutz]

Originally posted by pimped3point3:
Not if you upsize your rims correctly. For every 10mm smaller you go on the sidewall go 1" bigger on the rims size.

I believe he said that he had a set of 16 inch rims already so therefore going with a lower profile tire would change the speedo readings. Of dourse if you go bigger rim size you can adjust accordingly, but that had nothing to do with the original post.

 

[jnutz]

Originally posted by Aaron:
lowering a car has not effect on tires, why would it? they haven't changed in any way, not differnt load or force on them, the car is just lower. and as to lowering a car effecting cv joints? io have never heard of that either, if anything i would think it wouldn't hurt cuz it is putting the axxles more inline with each other, if you look at them now they are nagled a bit aren't there? if anything it will put them inline a lil more it is only 1 inch. and the cv joints are suppose to work properly at certian angeles and i doubt that with the eibachs you'd notice a problem in any way

Lowering the car will change your camber angle unless it is properly aligned afterwards. This will put a lot of stress on the inside of the tires. Think of it as a triangle with the strut and tire being the hypotenuse, the control arm as the base and the car as the third side. If you shorten the hypotenuse the angle at the tire going to the lower control arm willincrease chamging the way the tire rides on the road. Basically you would be riding on the inside edge of the tire and wearing it to a pulp. As for the cv-shaft they are made to run at certain angles. If those change for extended times they will wear faster causing failure. If executed properly a lowered car will perform much more smoothly and not cause undue wear. However the motr mounts and tranny mounts need to be adjusted to maintain the factory angles and the camber needs to also be adjusted. This spec can be played with somewhat, because some like to adjust camber angles to aide with handling performance. Caster could be adjusted at the same time because a higher caster angle gives a better performance without causing abnormal tire wear. If you have further questions send me an email or something because this can get so detailed that most would be saying, "Huh?"

 

[austinreed21]

so what would you do for everything to work 100% and run smooth? what exactly will i have to do if i lower the car? would i just bring it to my dodge dealer or to some suspension specialist locally and tell them that i lowered the car can you adjust my sh*t so it is all ok, what i am trying to say is how hard and how many things will i have to do to make everything be ok and adjusted correctly? thanks

 

[jnutz]

They make adjustable rear control arms for adjusting rear camber. That is all you would need for the rear. For the front you would need to install a camber bushing kit. Should be able to have a good alignment shop order those. They would have to check it and see how much it is out then order one with a large enough adjustment to take care of it. For the cv shafts I believe if you talk directly to either Eibach or Intrax they can sell you a special motior and tranny mount set that they developed because of people complaining about cv failure. I am pretty sure it was Intrax because Eibach did not want to get into that so they stopped making them. If you take care of those three you should be all set.Without a woory except thaat you rip your tips off if they stick out the side.

 

[p3]

Originally posted by jnutz:
I believe he said that he had a set of 16 inch rims already so therefore going with a lower profile tire would change the speedo readings. Of dourse if you go bigger rim size you can adjust accordingly, but that had nothing to do with the original post.

You said something about a spedo being off due to getting lower pro tires. I was just saying what to do to fix that.

 

[gr8crash]

u can get a lower profile you just have to go to wider, i went from 225-60 to 235/55 speeedo was uncahnged, i was looking at gonig 245/50, but there was onoly maybe 1/4 inch or room between the sideall and teh tie rod end

 

[Wutang15m]

Hey bro DONT DROP YOURE CAR TOO MUCH PROBLEMS. personally thats why eibach wants to quit produciton on them. the axel and the suspension components arent made to handle dropping. oi have the intrax and still have them on till now it shakes alittle when you accelerate cause the car is mad low. its looks tight but if you are going for comfort then dont get them