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I picked a bad time to attempt to get into the IT field.

Noone is hiring!!!

Job fairs, resumes...you name it.

Pretty soon it's gonna be " You want that Super-sized?" :(

Thought I'd vent. Thanks for your participation.
 

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Ha ha...reminds me of "Top Gun" when Goose said to Maverick right after they got busted for the tower fly-by...

"Hey Mav, do you still have the number to that truck driving school?... what was it 'Truck Masters'? Awwww ****!!"

:D

You don't know how many times I have repeated that line in the past couple of months.... :)
 

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Originally posted by CapitalCity RT:
I train and certify forklift operators if you want to change fields. :D :D

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I have a forklift license and I still can't find **** around here. :(
 

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I have a Hi-Lo license from when I used to live in Michigan and worked at Meijers. :D
 

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I coulda told you that. Been looking for 5 months. I'm sure theirs some burgers needed to be flipped somewhere. Call up Ronald, Dave, Carl, or even Wendy if your into redheads. :)
 

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I cannot believe what I am hearing! The good ole US of A. The zenith of democracy, freedom, pursuit of happiness and finance, capitalism, commercialism and the almighty American Dollar.

Nothin' at Enron? Ooppps, I forgot. Forget about what I said just above.

Seriously, I cannot believe you are having so much trouble. And yer a few miles from the center of international commerce.

Do yourself a favour...Try to build your own business. You'll never regret it. I am sure that there is financial help from the government and your unemployment office should be able to help.

I'm going nuts because this is off-season for me. Slow as hell, alot of stuff for sure without dates and confirmed dates for April, May and June. I want the short term stuff NOW! The long term is nice but I have to wait ages for the money.

The weather is too lousy to test these drivers outdoors, so everyone waits til spring.

Anyhow, good luck. The hi-tech sector is still booming here in Ottawa but it is cold, snowy, damp, dark and our $$$ is worth sh!t!

Anyhow, I'm talkin too much.

Danny
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I'm actually starting my own business.
www.tek-smart.com

I'm going to try and get some local contracts with some businesses to be their "on-call" guy for their networks.

But, I still want to get real employment. New York is admittedly, the capital of the world. But so many people lost their jobs out here when the towers fell. And to be a "greenie" like me doesn't help when 20,000 people (with experience) are looking for the same job out here on the island. Looks like I might have to head outta state. :( I Love NY!!! :(
 

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If you do have to move, check out the various calculators and research tools here. I've used them in the past when I've been called away on long-term contracts.
 

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Yea, you're right. NY state is a great state and the city, even better. I am about 50 miles north of NY state. The closest town is Ogdensburg. You probably never heard of it. Just a small little town. The larger cities closest to me would be Watertown (about a 2 HR. drive) and Syracuse (3+ hour drive).

I put in a response to a web ad for a position in Toledo, OH. Get to travel all over the states. I am well qualified but getting a Canadian into the states is difficult.

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I've been out of work since October!! I was doing Sales Engineering for an ISP but they had to do a massive layoff. There is nothing around here. I do have an interview next week though for a Network Engineering position...unfortunately its 3rd shift! At this point though I'll take anything otherwise my 'trep might be up for sale soon. Anyone interested in a Motorsports edition Intrepid SE?
 

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Hey Intrepidatious:

Have you been looking mostly in Long Island... or have you checked out Manhattan? Have you talked to any of the major IT headhunting agencies? (Remmington, Pathfinders, etc.)
 

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I'll admit, I haven't been using headhunters. I am a little skeptical of them. But I may, believe it or not, I'm going to take a test with the IRS on Tuesday for a position. So, if any of you cheese me off, you're getting audited!!!

I also am looking within the Dept of Defense, so I'll nuke you too. I really would like to get in with the government.

Wish me luck!! (I will still probably contact a headhunter though.)
 

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Well... ill tell you one thing... every job ive gotten... ive gotten through a headhunter. Well thats with the exception of this one job that my father worked for. :)

I would suggest you contact those two headhunters. Get their numbers either from online or 411. Yeah headhunters can be a little scummy... but those two have gotten me jobs in the past (including my present job). If there are ANY jobs hiring... they will get you interviews... especially for entry level.
 

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http://www.remingtoninternational.com/index.cfm
http://www.accessstaffing.com/

I cant find a website for Pathfinders... just call 212 info and get their number.

All three of these are very good agencies. Remmington got me my current job. Pathfinders got me my previous job. And Access got me plenty of interviews. Of course all of this was during the huge hiring binge... but you never know.

Don't say I don't take care of ya. ;)
 

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I've had pretty good luck with the IT specific headhunter agencies I've used - both for my own placement and for filling staff openings.

The most common type of position you will find will be a temp-to-perm. Basically the head-hunter sets up a 3-12 month contract with the client to provide your services to them. After the contract is up, you are either renewed, converted to a permanent position with the client or released from service.

If you get on board with a good one, you should expect to get 2 weeks vacation, one week sick leave, 8-10 holidays, 401k eligibility, and insurance included in the deal. You can negotiate for more, of course, but they'll try to keep the total compensation costs the same. Therefore, more bennies = less cash & vice versa.

Perhaps the most important thing you should find out when dealing with prospective head-hunters is what it takes to convert to a permanent position with the client. After all, you aren't going to make a career out of working for a head-hunter unless you work for their administrative team. Many agencies will charge the client and/or contractor (you) a conversion fee if you decide to go permanent during the course of the contract. That fee is usually 10-100% of your annual wage depending on the position you hold. This is typical and reasonable considering the only way these places make money is by having a contractor actively employed for a client.

What you want to make sure of is that there is no fee that you would have to pay to convert to a permanent employee upon expiration of the contract. It is common for agencies to charge the client a conversion fee (typically a set amount in this case) upon expiration of the contract and the agency will most likely not disclose that amount to you. This is fine, however, since if you are converted (70% chance if the position isn't a short-term opening) it means that the client is sufficiently impressed with your work to shell out the cash to keep you. This can lead to large benefits down the road.

Also, bear in mind that most agencies will charge two to three times your wage to the client. Therefore, if you are making say $48/hr. the client is, in fact, paying $80-$150/hr. to the agency. The agency does not disclose your wage to the client, and it does not disclose your billing rate to you. It is common for this information to slip out of people's mouths over the course of a contract. If you do obtain this figure, offer the middle ground as your first volley in the conversion negotiations with the client. You make more, they pay less. Happy campers all the way around.

Head-hunters can be unscroupulous at times (the proverbial few bad apples), but without them, the IT field wouldn't be considered as valuable as it is today. They match candidates with specific skills to openings that need those skills and charge a pretty penny for it. To the employer it's a good deal because, as you know, there are many "IT experts" that, due to inflated egos, fail miserably when put to task. Using an agency to prescreen the candidates saves them money in the long run - even with the inflated billing rates.

Hmm...I rambled. My apologies.
 

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Tell me about looking for jobs and being in the middle of layoffs, i work for Compaq!
I've been trying to find better jobs, or something more stable and with more job security than here. But, there is absolutely no position available out there. Compaq is laying off people, Enron just went bankrupt, and more small companies are going down. It's pretty hard down here. I still am on my job hunting quest, so, i'll let you know if i found anything around here...i doubt it though.
 
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