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I need to purchase a manual, is one better than the other, more info, or more indepth. I have a Haynes for my Grand Am GT but was wondering if the Chiltons has more info. If anyone has a preference let me know.

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I've used both. I have Chilton's for the trucks I have and I bought Haynes for my trep. They are about the same except Haynes has more photographs where as Chiltons has more illistrations. I am happy with the Haynes but when I get a chance I'll probably get the Chiltons just to compare a couple of mistakes that I found in the Haynes.
 

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I've had Chilton's for most of my vehicles, including one for my Trep. I have noticed errors in every one of them, though usually nothing serious. Some of it is probably due to the auto companies implementing changes to the vehicles during production that the manuals can't include in time. Though I would expect that getting any manual for an older car (like the first gens) should include all the variables. But they don't. Never had a Haynes.
 

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Hey swart.. u could prob cut off the mesh over the lights with a razor, of course with the bra off so u don't scratch the lenses.. poss. an idea :confused:
Also, how long have you had the bra on the car? Any fading of the paint? heard that could be a problem u run into when u have them on there for a long time, sun fades wrong.. :eek:
 

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I actually love the way the bra looks from far off. I am indifferent as to how much I like/dislike the mesh over the turn signals. It does look nice in the full car pictures but up close it doesn't look so good. I am not going to go cutting up the bra though.
I have only had my bra since the beginning of the winter. I am only running it on there for now to keep rocks and **** from messing up the front of my car any more than they already have. I may decide to keep it on later cause there is some chips and scratches in the front bumper and front of the hood that are very noticable.
No fading yet, but like I said, it has only been on since maybe November 2001. That isn't a long enough time to tell. I plan on having the car completely sanded down and repainted once I am done getting my Masters.

On the subject of service manuals. I have a Haynes manual as well as the 1994 Dodge Intrepid Service manual. They are both very good, but sometimes there is better how-to in the Haynes manual and things are named predictably. What I mean by this is that sometimes in the factory service manual, things are named what the engineers named them, but in the Haynes manual they are named what they are in common car terms. I can't think of any examples at the moment, but I know that I have ran into it once or twice.

The Chilton's/Haynes Manuals should be pretty close when it comes to details on different things. The differences come when the book was written for an Intrepid, but it also covers all the other cars in the LH platform. The manuals are written after a complete tear-down and re-assembly of each sub-system in a particular platform (ie. the LH platform) that they are printed for. That is where some of the discrepencies come from.
 

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I was going to mention Alldata.diy, but there are many people that are stuck with dialup for there ISP so they may not have the time to wait for the web pages to come up. You typically have to go through many pages before you find what you need.

Anyway, here is the information on Alldata.diy for those who want to check it out. You can get information about any TSB or Recall and what needs to be done to correct the problem. For a 1 year subscription for 1(one) vehicle it is $24.95 for first timers and $14.95 to add another vehicle or renew your subscription. .Click here for more information on how you can sign up.

I have found Alldata.diy very useful for some things but it becomes a hassle when you need your technical references at the car. Unless you have a laptop with a wireless connection you have to print out the webpages thus wasting a lot of paper. Another good thing about Alldata.diy is that it shows you the related "Book Times" for each repair. It is a way to check up on your dealership to see if they are screwing you over by charging your outrageous labour hours for a repair. I had this happen when I had my evaporator replaced. The dealership that I had it done at wanted to charge me somewhere around 10 hours to replace it when the standard book time is 6.4 hours. Needless to say, I never went back there again.

Anyhow, yeah Alldata.diy is a good resource. Combine that with any of the manuals above (especially the factory manual) and you should have anything that you need to make any minor or major repair on your car.
 
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