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Hey just looking for some input here... going to be switching my fogs to HID's now just wondering what would be better..

3000k -- yellow, better for fog, rain, crappy weather (essentially everything I experience)
Con --- Takes away from the OEM look

4300k -- OEM/slight yellow, same as above but not as efficient.

I'll also be running either 5000k or 6000k low beams.

I'm pretty undecided here so any input would be appreciated.
 

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Do little research and you'll see PIAA lighting is pretty highly regarded. I've also bought a couple different versions of the HID fog bulbs in 3000k and you can't see any yellow in them when they're on. Feel free to waste your money going that route.
 

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Ummm yeah... unless it comes with the buffet.. not happening...

HID's cost isn't an issue.. just wondering if yellow of off yellow... found this and I'm liking the look and how it blends

http://www.isfanatics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=546871

The yellow isn't overpowering and blends nicely with the regular lighting..
Ronbo's using the same bulbs I am, the PIAA Crystal IONs. They are arguably the best manufacture of halogen automotive lighting.
 

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Do little research and you'll see PIAA lighting is pretty highly regarded. I've also bought a couple different versions of the HID fog bulbs in 3000k and you can't see any yellow in them when they're on. Feel free to waste your money going that route.
Ronbo's using the same bulbs I am, the PIAA Crystal IONs. They are arguably the best manufacture of halogen automotive lighting.
These are the bulbs I want to get to replace my fog bulbs, PIAA is one of the best manufacturers for Bulbs.
 

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I did a similar HID upgrade, but I found that by just modding the fog lamps to accept HID I created an extremely bright lamp. So bright I needed to put a little carbon fiber over the upper half to stop blinding people. As for the yellow color, I never saw any difference when driving in the rain (I used yellow H3 bulbs before modding the fog lamps.) If your going for better light output while driving I would go with 6000k HID bulbs. 8000k would give you a slight blue tint, but as I said before HID in a fog lamp is really bright.
 

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Originally Posted by Ronbo View Post
Do little research and you'll see PIAA lighting is pretty highly regarded. I've also bought a couple different versions of the HID fog bulbs in 3000k and you can't see any yellow in them when they're on. Feel free to waste your money going that route."

Haven't heard of PIAA's before so little leary of buying from overseas.


I did a similar HID upgrade, but I found that by just modding the fog lamps to accept HID I created an extremely bright lamp. So bright I needed to put a little carbon fiber over the upper half to stop blinding people. As for the yellow color, I never saw any difference when driving in the rain (I used yellow H3 bulbs before modding the fog lamps.) If your going for better light output while driving I would go with 6000k HID bulbs. 8000k would give you a slight blue tint, but as I said before HID in a fog lamp is really bright.
Going more for functuality..3000k where I live I drive home from work around 3-4 am out in the country.. I'm going over rivers and creeks, very foggy. So fogy that sometimes I have to turn OFF my headlights and just use parking and fog because I'm blinded by the low beam output.

As for low beam HID I think you got lost somewhere... 8000k wasn't even in consideration lol.. for low's going with either 5000k or 6000k lol...
 

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Did the CF do a decent enough job of cutting down on the glare? I've read in several places here that HIDs in the fogs are a no-no unless you retrofit projectors into them. HIDs basically turn our fogs into mini-suns to on coming drivers.
from all the video's I've seen they don't look too bad as long as they are aimed right...
 

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I bought the PIAA bulbs on Amazon. They're stocked by local US retailers all over the place.
 

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I've got a retro-fitted 8000K HID kit in both my low beam and fogs....never been brighted once....they've been in there about a year and a half....no problems.....the fogs took a little drilling and fitting of the HID bulb but it fit fine and the lows just replaced the stock bulb no problem....I have read all the people saying other drivers bright them all the time, its horrible for oncoming traffic, blah blah blah....I drive ALOT at night, had trouble seeing without street lights on the highway....put the HID kits in, BAM! Instant better vision! Mine are lightly tinted blue and very bright almost white....I love, love, LOVE them!
 

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Question 2toner/t I've read mixed msg about Relays for 35w ballasts. some sites say they are needed others say no.. do you have them?
 

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Most local auto stores carry them on the shelves as well.
I'll keep an eye out for them for my High beams... got silverstars in there right now and when I took them out of my old headlights they were blacking in the inside.... thinking they are going to "Pop" soon..
 

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relays? I purchased a kit, 35watt ballast, not the little "slim" ballasts...I mounted the "thicker" ballast for both the low beams AND fogs under the headlights onto the front rebar....I basically plugged the ballast into the bulb assembly, plugged my stock headlight plug into the other side of the ballast and they came on....they came with plastic housings to hold the ballast tight and I used self tapping sheet metal screws to fasten the housings to the rebar, snapped the ballast's into them and zip tied the wires neatly and reinstalled my headlights....took about 30 minutes for both headlights and fogs...had to drill a hole into the foglight housing to mount the HID bulb into it and used 3M "30 second" adhesive to hold the new bulb base in place and that was about 18 months ago...no problems through a harsh Chicago winter or this very rainy spring
 

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Yeah the CF acted like a shield, now the lamps light up the street and the sidewalks nicely. And your right the HID did turn the lamps into mini-suns. I have yet to have any other drivers bright me so I guess my mod worked. I wouldn't change it for the world....so much better while driving at night.
 

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I bought the PIAA bulbs on Amazon. They're stocked by local US retailers all over the place.
Most local auto stores carry them on the shelves as well.
So far none of my local stores carry them... a couple haven't even heard of them. (Canada)

Gonna try some performance places tomorrow.

Vatrepn you have any pics of the CF mod?
 
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