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Intrepid -- Greatest --- Tow Machine of the 90ees!! a True Story !!!
Hard to belive yet .... and yet I have to point this out.....

http://www.campingworld.com/forums/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/2449238.cfm

if you read this it'll give you all the mods you need to make your trep exra heavy duty!!!!


Wannna tow 10,000 lbs of stuff ???

unbelivable

but yes over 100 treps converted to
heavy haulers beating out ex(ecutions)curtions and other such brutish beasts

still not a beliver then ?

http://www.airstreamforums.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=3636&highlight=intrepid


http://www.airstreamforums.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4106&highlight=intrepid

Trep hauler of the Decade !!!!!!

Thanks Andy

makes me feel better and with gas prices topping .90 cents a liter in canada

thats $3.75 a gallon !!!! right now we need these high feul milage vechicles as towers...

Only in Canada ...............................
 

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This is mind boggling, that i have no idea what the hell is going on. Get those links working and put some sense to your madness.

-Adam
 

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read this thread http://www.campingworld.com/forums/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/2449238/srt/pa/pging/1/page/1.cfm

it has a lot of info on why he likes setting up Intrepids to tow


When the Intrepid was introduced Chrysler had designed in many ways the
ideal tow vehicle they just didn't know it. They widened the stance,
lengthened the wheelbase and shortened the rear overhang. As well the
214 Horse Power 212cid engine has 4 valves per cylinder which lets you
have your cake and eat it to, it has great low end torque but also
plenty of horsepower when you need it as well they gave it an overbuilt
transaxle and a 3.67:1 final drive ratio. Our 1994 Intrepid currently
has 84,000 very hard miles on it on the original drive train with the
vast majority of these miles towing which includes a thousand test
drives, hundreds of runs down the drag strip and plenty of trips
elsewhere. One of our customers has towed since new with his 95
Intrepid which now has 170,000 miles on it. We have set up over 100
Intrepids since 1993.
 

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Discussion Starter #7 (Edited)
try the links now


yup

read the article

Andy states that a trep and an airstream trailer ie 10,000 lbs have only 80 lbs air resistance when being towed


An explorer has, by itself more wind resistance than that alone !!!

maybe Andy is the Gallieo of the towing world !
having applied scientific testing and reasoning to the towing world for decades.

remember what happened to Galleio in the midde ages
when he disturbed "THOSE WHO KNEW BETTER"

he was flammed at the stake much as Andy is know


but read Andy's and look at the pic's

over 60,000 miles towing 10,000lbs trailer !!!


I love tounge in cheek :wink: :blush: :dozeoff:



The legendary 1994 Chrysler Intreped that Can Am used for many years has been mentioned a few times in different threads. I was going through a newsletter and saw this article. This is the notorious Intripid at a test track negotiating a slolam run with a big A-S in tow. Here are the highlights.

The Intrepid is used to demo large Airstreams over 90% of its driving time.
It has over 60,000 miles of towing on it.
Few problems developed as a result of towing.
It went through the slalom faster than a Suburban or a Blazer. Note that this Intrepid towing a 34' A-S went through the slalom almost as fast as some vehicles did solo.
Options were a custom hitch & HENSLEY, transmission cooler and brake controller.
3.5 V6 front wheel drive ( weight on drive wheels) proved to be a success.

This won't appeal to everyone but does illustrate the capabilities.

JD1 has attached this image:

http://www.airstreamforums.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=3636&highlight=intrepid
 

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Only thing I saw wrong with the write up is the idea of intrepids having lots of torque.....isn't that what our cars our famous for not having...
 

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so by his logic I will have an easier time towing a trailer with my 3.2 Intrepid than with the family 5.0 Explorer?

I'm not concerned with rolling weight and resistance, what concerns me is having the ability to get that weight moving from a dead stop and what scares me is the thought of stopping that weight with the Intrepids already weak brakes
 

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I tell you READ the articles !!!!!

torque http://www.rvlifemag.com/file323/hitchhints323.html

its not a drag race is it ? were towing .........

All airstream have brakes --

even on an Execution (excurtions)

the trailers brakes help the tow vechile in all cases

but Andy's been doing this for over a decade with no deaths !!


unbelivable http://www.hensleymfg.com/


:eek: lets burn him at the stake !!!!!!!

a new effcient idea ----------------------------------------------------- no tim taylor bigger is better syndrome !!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I love tounge in cheek


By the way Who says intrepid brakes are weak?

was it that fat assed sheriff who didn't want a trep as his patrol car? who flamed the brakes (like purposley shag!)

did you read the report that Dodge came up with after analysing the facts?

very enlightening
 

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Jus' Trepping said:
Only thing I saw wrong with the write up is the idea of intrepids having lots of torque.....isn't that what our cars our famous for not having...
3.5Ls have plenty of torque. Low too.

If I were to tow things with an intrepid, I would...

- Upgrade the aux trans cooler with one of those big RV/van ones to compensate with the extra stress on the trans.

- Put iRotors on all 4s. Combine them with a good set of strong pads. Thats about as good as intrepid brakes get (besides the really expensive 2nd gen big brake kits).

- Put in 2.7L/300m special or prowler pro gears. Then the power curve is lower.
 

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Though you guys couldn't read that far but,,, that is quite

PRICELESSS.........


you know if they had a fixed


1 Quality control problems on assembly

2 Using atf +3 instead of Dextron from the factory
(dipstick thing)

3 Local oil , tranny shops using dextron and slipery enhancment juice (all american cars use only dextron )
besides its cheaper for the oil joints instead a atf +3

4 tranny cooler factory installed from day one
(cheaper for the factory not too)

maybe they would a had a chance

Flaming Brakes
by the way according to dodge the flaming brakes happen when you do multiple repeated high speed stops on a brand new, -----not as yet broken in car.


ie abuse the brakes without giving them a chance to wear in for the first 100 miles or so.....

and you light up , wonder if impalas can take that kinda thing , or crown vics or 10 cylinder lxh's what lse would sieze ?

only your local donut gorumet will know.......??? :wink:
 

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We had a hitch on out old 1994 New Yorker but never used it, the previous owner had a small trailer for bringing his trash to the dump, and to haul around a jetski but thats all.

We tow our 19Ft GradyWhite Tournament(2500+LBs) with a 1997 4Cyl 2Wd 5-speed Ford Ranger on a bumper hitch:crazy:
 

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i call bullshit. we tow our 2500lb boat and the car is ready to collapse. its only rated at 2000 lb. towing capacity. getting up some boat ramps is hard. and going up some steeper hills on the road. the power just isnt there. granted we only have a 3.3 but even a 3.5 wouldnt have much more luck. and unless you through a dodge ram suspension under there the car would be on the ground before you got all the weight on it. there is no way in hell anyone unless you have serious suepesnion mods there is a trelp towing 10k lbs. its impossible.
 

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Discussion Starter #17 (Edited)
checkout physics 101

levers, fulcrums, bearings , friction and thrust

likewise gear ratios and vertical and horizontal componets

aerodynamics and centre of pressure and gravity


why can a 2000lbs cessna fly on a 200hp engine?

why can a 4000lbs intrepid move on 50 lbs of force?

why do boats come with high performance engines ?
while cars have low performance engines

strange but true:mg: :bigsmile:
 

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i think i'll use my 76 ford f-250 for my towin thanks..

390cid
c6
class 4 hitch
dana60 rear with 4.11's
Trailer Package including active trailer brake and over size drums and disks with dual piston calipers.
 

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Hmm the Chevy Metro had a low center of gravity....
 

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i hope the chevy metro is better then the geo metro.. cuz them geo's could barely get out of their own way..

good news is that.. you and a buddy could damned near carry them home when they broke down..
 
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