i recently got a huge speeding ticket (4 pts), and the only thing i can think of to cut down a little on the insurance bill would be to get a 10+ year old car. im 18, almost 19, so its really going to affect my insurance rate. trying to talk my dad into selling the pos cirrus im driving now, and my trep (just been sitting around). both are 99's, so that doesnt help me much. does anyone know any solid 97 models? i dont really want to get a 1st gen...but anything else on the market that you guys have had good experiences with? thanks in advance for the input!