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HI,
I HAVE A:
Year/Make/Model: 1999 DODGE INTREPID
Body Style: Sedan 4 DR
Engine Type: 2.7L V6 SMPI DOHC ALM


1. four days ago the intereior lights(clock, mileage and the light that tells you
what gear its in started blinking very once in a while.)
2. then all the sudden the engine started making a noise kinda below the fanbelts
i would say.( the engine noise went from a kind of light knocking to a clunking sound)
it would at first only do it for a minute then stop and now it is doing it constantly to the
point that the engine dies. The noise is really loud now.
3. the day the car started really getting bad was the day my roomate decided to come
up to me (of course a week after the fact) and tell me that he found a really tiny
vacuum hose in my parking space and the dumb-asss said he never bothered
to tell me because he thought I, (a 30yr old princess) replaced it..
4 anyway-- The error code I recieved today when I turned the key
from on to off to get a diagnosis was "p 1684".
I looked that up and I did have my battery replaced at the same time I had
my starter replaced which was about a month to a month 1/2 ago.
This is all just beginning and I have had the car for almost a year now...
I cant afford this.

PLEASE HELP!!!!!
 

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Stop making threads.
 

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He's new and car acting up, forgive him for he knows not what he does. Post in second gen or general discussion next time and wait a little while, the people that might be able to give you help might not be here right now, but give them time.
 

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but among the problems you listed the loud engine noise is quite likely fatal. If you get a chance to read through other threads here relating to the 2.7 engine, you'll quickly understand this engine has a chronic habit of sludging up and starving the engine of oil.....even if oil changes have been performed each 3000 miles. Using your search engine will tell you how pervasive this problem is.....including this one site alone....

http://www.complain-complain.com/com/list_complaint.asp?table=chrysler

Wish I had better news for you, but ...........
 

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DanIntrepid'00 said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but among the problems you listed the loud engine noise is quite likely fatal.
Simple solution: use synthetic oil. End of story.
 

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This happened to my mom's car (she's the one with the Intrepid), but it hadn't gotten this bad. All it was doing was burning oil fast, so she took it in. The dealer somehow got it under warranty (I think the mechanic was just a nice guy though) and she got her engine rebuilt. Then it stopped.
 

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I went to the link posted by DanIntrepid'00, and it's shocking. This would lead you to believe that the 2.7s are junk. However, it's so easy to forget that the Intrepid market is flooded with (former) rental cars. The 2.7 is sensitive to maintence intervals, and posts fishing for complaints usually suceed. kari2015, I hope you have your (and the past owner's) maintence records, and qualify for the 7/70 powertrain coverage. If you do not, it seems buying a new car might be the best bet as you will know what you have in the future. Buying used can save a bunch of money. In most cases (probably yours also) you save more than enough to pay for repairs, including a new powertrain. This probably isn't what you want to hear, but it is what it is.
 

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crombie said:
Simple solution: use synthetic oil. End of story.
And I do.....have done so since purchasing my '00 Intrepid in July of '02...

Nonetheless, an engine shouldn't REQUIRE synthetic to keep from self destructing. This is a major design flaw that Chrysler fails to acknowledge.
 

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SILVER BULLET said:
I went to the link posted by DanIntrepid'00, and it's shocking. This would lead you to believe that the 2.7s are junk. However, it's so easy to forget that the Intrepid market is flooded with (former) rental cars.

Silverbullet, I work in the car rental industry. True, Intrepids are a very popular model for rentals, but then again, so are several other models as well, including the Ford Taurus.
For a proper comparison, look into Taurus' for sale on Ebay....and how many have premature engine failure. Compare that to the seemingly endless Ebay Intrepids sold as "mechanics specials", almost all with the 2.7. Some with amazingly low mileage, including one I saw last night, an '01, with only 30 something thousand on it. Engine's gone already. With so many 2nd generation Intrepids on the market, why are used 2.7's so difficult to find in salvage yards? Supply and demand, my friend, and the supply just can't keep up with the huge demand.
Look, I love my Intrepid, but I refuse to look at these vehicles through rose colored glasses. Chrysler screwed up big time with these engines, and the oil sludging problem. What's worse, they refuse to acknowledge their mistake and honest, hard working people who follow manufacturer's maintenance schedules are getting stuck with huge repair bills they can't pay.
 

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DanIntrepid'00 said:
Nonetheless, an engine shouldn't REQUIRE synthetic to keep from self destructing. This is a major design flaw that Chrysler fails to acknowledge.
I 100% agree with you. The 2.7 Liter engine SHOULD NOT Require synthetic if the owner plans on keeping the car f or a long time. Not saying that it is you, because it is not... but with all of the websites out their devoted to the 2.7 engine, if DC really cared, they would have done something by now.
 

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DanIntrepid'00, I agree with most of what you say. But remember, the 2.7 is a "high maintence" hightech modern engine, meaning it is very sensitive to frequent oil changes. The Camry (one of the newer engines) has similar issues, but isn't generally a fleet rental car. The Taurus powertrain isn't as finicky, or likely to self destruct if the oil isn't changed religiously. It also isn't as high tech as ths Camry or 2.7 trep motor. That's what I am saying. Having said that, I know that I don't really know if the 2.7 is a bonafide piece of fecal matter. Only Chrysler has all of the data. However, it seems that many owners who take care of them have no problems for high milage, and many that buy used (high probability of rental DNA) do have severe problems. Also, owners that buy new but slack (some probably will never admidt it) on oil changes will have problems on a 2.7 also.

Reality check: I also agree that with these kind of problems existing with Chrysler's (fleet or retail) customers, they should fully back up (assuming maint done) any customers engines that die a premature death, and redesign the lubrication and / or the sludging problems.
 

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DanIntrepid'00 said:
Silverbullet, I work in the car rental industry. True, Intrepids are a very popular model for rentals, but then again, so are several other models as well, including the Ford Taurus.
For a proper comparison, look into Taurus' for sale on Ebay....and how many have premature engine failure. Compare that to the seemingly endless Ebay Intrepids sold as "mechanics specials", almost all with the 2.7. Some with amazingly low mileage, including one I saw last night, an '01, with only 30 something thousand on it. Engine's gone already. With so many 2nd generation Intrepids on the market, why are used 2.7's so difficult to find in salvage yards? Supply and demand, my friend, and the supply just can't keep up with the huge demand.
Look, I love my Intrepid, but I refuse to look at these vehicles through rose colored glasses. Chrysler screwed up big time with these engines, and the oil sludging problem. What's worse, they refuse to acknowledge their mistake and honest, hard working people who follow manufacturer's maintenance schedules are getting stuck with huge repair bills they can't pay.
The Taurus doesn't have a stellar engine reliability history just because you don't see many on eBay without engine problems.

As I recall, a version of the Taurus's engine was at least as prone to failure as the 2.7L.
 

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SILVER BULLET said:
The Camry (one of the newer engines) has similar issues, but isn't generally a fleet rental car.
Opps....gotta take issue with that one.
Around here, at least, Camry's are VERY popular with fleets....we have 12 of them ourselves. And almost every other rental company here has them as well........along with Corollas, Echo's, and Sienna's. So yes, Toyota is quite popular with the rental industry.
 

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The Taurus doesn't have a stellar engine reliability history just because you don't see many on eBay without engine problems.

But, wouldn't you agree, sites such as Ebay can be relied on to provide a somewhat average cross section of common problems among varying models?

As I recall, a version of the Taurus's engine was at least as prone to failure as the 2.7L.
Any idea which one? The 3.8 had a few problems with head gaskets, but the 3.0 has an outstanding history for reliability.

I check Ebay's Intrepid section almost daily, and have done so for nearly a year now......the rate of 2.7 failures from '98 and up is nothing short of embarrassing for DC. Even more telling is the fact almost all of them can be traced to one specific issue....

SLUDGE
 

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kari2015 said:

Engine Type: 2.7L V6 SMPI DOHC ALM
There's your 1st problem

kari2015 said:

2. then all the sudden the engine started making a noise kinda below the fanbelts
i would say.( the engine noise went from a kind of light knocking to a clunking sound)
it would at first only do it for a minute then stop and now it is doing it constantly to the
point that the engine dies. The noise is really loud now.
There's your 2nd problem. Most people would stop driving the car before it gets to the point where the noise lasts the entire time the engine is on and well before the engine stalls because of it.
 

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But, wouldn't you agree, sites such as Ebay can be relied on to provide a somewhat average cross section of common problems among varying models?
eBay isn't a litmus test.

The 2.7L engine's failure rate is not any better or worse than the failure rate for engines from Ford or GM.
 

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00ChryslerIntrepid said:
eBay isn't a litmus test.

The 2.7L engine's failure rate is not any better or worse than the failure rate for engines from Ford or GM.
do we have real failure rate data from the 2.7?
ive never been able to find anything concrete about it
 

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Taurus engines

3.0 was pretty bulletproof.

3.8 was a MAJOR disaster.

At least that is how it worked out in our fleet.

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Taurus engines

3.0 was pretty bulletproof.

3.8 was a MAJOR disaster.

At least that is how it worked out in our fleet.

Don
this is very true, everyone I have known with a Taurus has had many problems with the 3.8 and the 3.0 is pretty bullet-proof...(the trannys are another story, however..) as far as the 2.7's go, with everything I have read, it seems they are prone to failure due to sludge and timing chain/waterpump failures..especially if the maintenence is ignored, but my theory on why you see them on Ebay for sale with bad motors all the time is that the average cost to replace the engine is in the $4500 - $6500 range,and with the resale of the '98- 01 Intrepids right around that price , most people choose to cut their losses and sell them as-is.. if the cost of replacement was like a 3.8 Taurus ($2000-$3000) then most owners would probably replace the engine..
 
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