[Dramradhel]

Well, i've seen it spoken of in several posts but not sure if i've seen a topic.
I'm a huge fan of a 5-speed manual and I know my trep won't hold out much longer on the tranny that's in it already. I'm figuring I can spend oodles of cash to fix what I got (hopefully not oodles butcha get the idea) or maybe get a manual installed. I know that it is VERY uncommon but wasn't sure if anyone has successfully managed to do it.

Also, RWD, same idea minus the tranny problem. Anyone done it yet? someone once posted (forgot who) that our car was designed for a RWD package. I know costs would be huge but that would come in time. Thanks!

 

[p3]

i would like to know if its possible for a 5 speed too, i have thought about it before but i dont know what tranny you would have to put in it or how much it would cost.....not to mention the pain of running a clutch

 

[1mz-fe]

try it. i think that would be sweet as hell.

 

[brun064]

The sidewinder concept had a 6 speed (Borg Warner T-6) and a RWD. The big problem would be moving the gas tank and findind a bell housing to fit the engine. It would definately be a project, but the benefits would kick ass.

 

[Wutang15m]

**** if it can be done then i would invest some money into it.

 

[1mz-fe]

put the gas tank in the trunk. if the car is this much of a project then you're not gonna be hauling groceries around anyway. actually, you could probably get a racing fuel cell in a larger size, maybe even 20 gals or so. the trunk is massive.

 

[NCBrit]

I read somewhere that the prototype LH used a transmission from an Audi. If you have ever looked at the Audi transmission it is very similar. Front wheel drive, longitudinal engine. The quatro Audis use a similar tranny to the FWD cars, except there is a shaft coming out the rear of the tranny. How about a 4WD trep.

 

[p3]

i dont know about 4WD ...but AWD with a 5 speed like the Eclipse GSX you could get some wicked ass take offs

 

[Warlord187]

Originally posted by pimped3point3:
i dont know about 4WD ...but AWD with a 5 speed like the Eclipse GSX you could get some wicked ass take offs

Isn't 4WD and AWD virtually the same? After all 4WD means that the engine turns all four wheels. Well, the same with AWD. Am I missing anything? I know that there is such a thing as selectable 4WD and full time 4WD.

 

[IntrepidXJ]

Unless you have more than 4 wheels, 4wd and awd are the same thing....

 

[Valhalla 21340]

i would just sit back and wait to see whats new in 2003.....a 358 ci motor w/ hemi' heads, driving the rear, with a 4 speed? last i heard, 300N will have an option that sounds like that in 2003....i could be wrong, but i sure as hell hope not...chevy has the camaro/trans-am (NFL, tho), the vette...ford has the mustang....dodge has the...uh,,....viper, but compared to a new camaro? look at the price....
that would be fn awesome if the nazis at the head of chrysler decided to ressurect the "scat pack" idea of the late '60s.......a car dodge could call its own.......dammit. i broke a nail.

 

[Warlord187]

Too bad the Camaro/Trans Am have been discontinued...

 

[Valhalla 21340]

yeah,...but you can still pick up one of em for under 3k...ready to tear apart courtesy of the summit racing catalog

 

[Djnrg]

If my tranny goes, I would definitely invest in a 5-speed........your car would be a LOT faster too, because of the closer gear ratios, and because you wouldnt have the 35% power loss from the stupid tranny!

that would be SWEEEEET!!!!!

 

[LymanSS]

Originally posted by Intrepid99:
Unless you have more than 4 wheels, 4wd and awd are the same thing....

This is wrong. 4 wheel drive simply uses a transfer case that drives the front wheels at the same rate as the rear wheels. There are only two differentials in a 4wd system. This is why they are not supposed to be driven on pavement. The front a rear will want to turn at slightly different rates, but they are locked together, which will cause them to put stress on the system.

AWD uses a differential, or a viscous coupling between the front and rear allowing them to spin at different rates, while applying torque to both. This allows full time use, even on roads. It is a huge difference. 4WD is virtually useless on a road car unless its stuck in the snow. AWD is usable all the time and allows you to put down a lot more power coming out of the corners.

Scott

 

[Warlord187]

Thanks Scott. I always wondered if there was a true difference. Now I know!

 

[silver ghost]

"And knowing is half the battle!"

But seriously, Some european (pronounced "you're a peein" sorry couldn't resist.) automaker, Audi I think, have a manual FWD trans that may work in car. However, keep in mind you need a clutch linkage (hydraulic is best) and a shift linkage. Don't forget a clutch pedal also!
The rewards would be great but the amount of work and cash is greater. I love my beast and would do most anything to get more power and speed from her, but, I wouldn't try it. Think about it yes, do it, no.

 

[LymanSS]

Silver ghost,
I think its going to be tough to find a fwd manual tranny that works for us. Not only is the engine mounted longitudinally (which is really weird for a front driver), we also have a really tight packaging situation up front as a result of "Cab Forward" design. The chances that someone else's tranny would match up with the drivetrain layout in our cars is so small that I can hardly even justify looking. Rear wheel drive or awd is slightly different though. We could put the tranny right behind the engine, and run a driveshaft back to the rear. I had this argument with my brother for years. Could the Intrepid handle being a rear driver? Was it meant to conduct the force of acceleration from the rear to the front (in compression) rather than from the front to the rear (in tension)? I got my answer a little while ago when I learned that Chrysler deliberately designed the LH chassis to work both as a front and a rear drive platform. At the time they weren't sure whether the front drivers would be accepted in the near luxury market they wanted to attack with the high end LH cars. So we know that it can handle the power from the back, provided you can find a way to get it there. Anyway, if anyone is interested in AWD, try taking a look at www.quaife.co.uk Expensive but cool.

Scott

 

[p3]

most the time in 4WD only 2 wheels are actually spinning one in the front and one in the back..in AWD all of them are spinning

 

[silver ghost]

The hell with it, if I was really gonna do it, the only way I would is by shoe-horning a Viper V10 drive train in it, cut the rear doors out and create a V-10, 6 speed, RWD Intrepid Killer Coupe! Drool....

I can dream can't I?