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My intrepid is a f*cking Lemon! I am so mad right now. When i bought the car i had it for 15 days and i started hearing some knocking noise. Well i took it back to the dealership and they did an oil change on it and said that it shouldn't knock anymore. So i drove it for 2 more days and still heard it so i took it back, they put heavier weight oil in it and some lifter noise reduction stuff "lol" and said it was just dirt under the lifters and should stop in a few days. Well i drove it for a "few days" and the engine Blew!! So needless to say i took it back to the dealer and they gave me a rental car. And they kept my car for 3 months. I made 3 payments on it before i got it back. When i finally got it back, i drove it for 2 days and it broke down again, "something about a sensore went out". So they came and got it and took it for another few weeks. I got it back again. And drove it for about 2 weeks and today i went out and started it up to warm it up. Then i go to get in the car and my Head Unit is shut off, so i try to turn it back on and it won't turn on.....so i start freaking out thinking something ****ed up on my HU so i turn the car off and go to start it back up and it won't f*cking start!!! so i pull the wifes POS 1992 Corsica next to the Trep and jump it, then i get in the trep and there is smoke coming through the heater vents. So needless to say they are coming to get my damn car again!!!!

I thought about doing that Lemon Law thing, but the thing is the dealer that is doing all this is my wifes dad. He is a f*cking scam artist. What should i do? What can i do? i love my intrepid but i need a reliable car!!
 

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I was going to say.. well what year is your car? Then I saw it's a 98+, with probably a 2.7. Ouch man. Do some searches about sludge and 2.7's.

That definately sounds like you're being scammed. A full engine swap for a DEALER should take no more than a week. That's WITH giving them time to locate all the parts they need, shipping for overnight delivery, and such.

IF the engine craps out again, have them swap a 3.2 in there for you, then it'll be VERy reliable, and much more powerful, by like 35 horsepower, and that much more torque.
 

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Advice for all 2.7 owners.....

USE FULL SYNTHETIC!!!!!!!!

Synthetic will NOT sludge up, which is bound to happen with these engines when conventional oil is used. The oil return tube is too narrow in these engines, and the oil cooks inside the block resulting in sludge.

Good luck with your car.
 

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Is the car new?
 

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Sounds like you should lemon it. If the dealer is your father-in-law he should have given you another car by now. Maybe the repair department doesn't like your father-in-law
 

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the car is a 1999 has the 2.7, the old engine had 69k on it, and the engine that i just has put in it only has 20k on it.
 

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Also, i just went out to start it, and it started fine. so i drove it down the road, and it wouldn't shift out of 1st. i got all the way up to 50 and it still wouln't shift, then on the way back my lights got really dim, almost to the point where i couldn't see and my dash lights dimmed all the way down....WTF!!
 

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Have you discussed this car with the father-in-law (I mean, really, what kind of father would own a car business and let his daughter and newborn grand-daughter drive around in a CORSICA, I just bought my Mother-in-Law a Plymouth Breeze to get her out of her Corisica cause she drives my neice and nephew around, they are death traps). Perhaps he would understand your problems and help you out or at least acknowledge the problems and expect you to handle it in an appropriate manner as his customer - you are his customer by the way, regardless of any familial relation.

Business and family don't mix. But the car being a Lemon is not your father-in-laws business' fault. So go ahead and file a lemon claim and your father in law should understand it is not personal, it is a need for reliable transportation. You have to be able to move the wife and daughter around reliably and he should understand that and understand that there are truly reasons for the laws, just because you married his daughter does not mean you are not afforded rights the rest of us have.
 

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I see the picture of your car and it is a beauty, but I can't see the attachment in a car that spends more time being fixed then being driven. Take it back to him, find a nice Intrepid, 300M or Concorde on his lot and tell him your taking that as a replacement, let him sell it to someone else and see how they deal with him.
 

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I don't see this car being a lemon................... OK first off if the car went in for repairs befor you made the first payment(since your first payment is the following month) you should have gone to the bank and told them to hold off while you get it fixed..they would have.......... second you have to take it make to the dealer of fixed it and give them a chance to fix it... who knows it might have been a result of something they have done.... thirdly waiting 2-3 months for that well thats your own stupidity..I would have been there everyday hounding them THEN got it towed to another dealership and phoned dodge head office!!
 

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Pull out the big guns!

Spent the morning contemplating this one a bit more.

Forget Lemon laws. How far does your father in law live from you all? I bet pretty close so here is what you do.

Put your daughter's car seat in the back, give your wife (his daughter) the keys and send her over there to help her mom get everything together for Christmas (follow her over there in case anything happens to the stupid car but don't let the in-laws know you followed her). Holidays are a great time for daughter's to bend mom's ear about whatever problems are happening in life at that time. While she is there, make sure she tells her mother (or step mother or whatever) how the car won't shift out of first gear and has been at the shop for n-months and is generally unreliable and how you guys really need a reliable car since you are transporting a new born and it is winter afterall - what would happen if the car broke down again and they were stranded???

I give it a week before your car problems are solved or your father in law is knocking on your door for someplace to sleep. I have never lost a battle with the in-laws (really!) - and usually they end up looking really stupid in the process because the refuse to think rationally. You have two big guns guaranteed to work wonders for your cause, daughter and grand-daughter - this one is over before it even starts ;)
 

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DaddyKinn said:
the car is a 1999 has the 2.7, the old engine had 69k on it, and the engine that i just has put in it only has 20k on it.

Thats why it took 3 months, to locate a used 2.7. Those things blow so often that they are like gold to a salvage yard. You should get another 50K on that engine.
 

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Jus' Trepping said:
I don't see this car being a lemon................... OK first off if the car went in for repairs befor you made the first payment(since your first payment is the following month) you should have gone to the bank and told them to hold off while you get it fixed..they would have.......... second you have to take it make to the dealer of fixed it and give them a chance to fix it... who knows it might have been a result of something they have done.... thirdly waiting 2-3 months for that well thats your own stupidity..I would have been there everyday hounding them THEN got it towed to another dealership and phoned dodge head office!!
Okay, i have never owned a car where i had to go through a bank before, i have always bought my cars off of people i knew. Not dealerships. And everytime the car did break down i gave the car back to her father at the dealership to fix it, i didn't take it anywhere except to him. When he had the engine put in, he took it to another Garage, well when it broke down the last time i called him and he told me "not to call him bitching anymore because he paid them 2300 dollars for the new engine and it has a warranty so now it is their problem not his!" See her dad owns a Used Car Lot, not a New Dealership. Its a Buy Here-Pay Here Place. The only other thing that i would want that is on his lot is a 2001 Impala, everything else he has is junk!
 

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Re: Pull out the big guns!

ladelberg said:
Spent the morning contemplating this one a bit more.

Forget Lemon laws. How far does your father in law live from you all? I bet pretty close so here is what you do.

Put your daughter's car seat in the back, give your wife (his daughter) the keys and send her over there to help her mom get everything together for Christmas (follow her over there in case anything happens to the stupid car but don't let the in-laws know you followed her). Holidays are a great time for daughter's to bend mom's ear about whatever problems are happening in life at that time. While she is there, make sure she tells her mother (or step mother or whatever) how the car won't shift out of first gear and has been at the shop for n-months and is generally unreliable and how you guys really need a reliable car since you are transporting a new born and it is winter afterall - what would happen if the car broke down again and they were stranded???

I give it a week before your car problems are solved or your father in law is knocking on your door for someplace to sleep. I have never lost a battle with the in-laws (really!) - and usually they end up looking really stupid in the process because the refuse to think rationally. You have two big guns guaranteed to work wonders for your cause, daughter and grand-daughter - this one is over before it even starts ;)
DEVIOUS,,,but Brilliant.....
 

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I don't think devious is the right word. You have to manage the inlaws. Management means using the resources you have at hand to influence their thinking so they see the right answer without you (the non-blood relative) having to tell them what it is ;) Just called it a planned inlaw engagement.

These things work even if the Mom and daughter don't get along, it is truly amazing how women can be at odds with each other and Mom and Dad can be in complete agreement. But let the well being of a grandchild get involved and you got the power all of sudden.
 

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DaddyKinn said:
Okay, i have never owned a car where i had to go through a bank before, i have always bought my cars off of people i knew. Not dealerships. And everytime the car did break down i gave the car back to her father at the dealership to fix it, i didn't take it anywhere except to him. When he had the engine put in, he took it to another Garage, well when it broke down the last time i called him and he told me "not to call him bitching anymore because he paid them 2300 dollars for the new engine and it has a warranty so now it is their problem not his!" See her dad owns a Used Car Lot, not a New Dealership. Its a Buy Here-Pay Here Place. The only other thing that i would want that is on his lot is a 2001 Impala, everything else he has is junk!
This is a prime example of why used-car salesmen have the stereotypical reputation that they do...all they want is your money. Once they have your money, most of them don't ever want to see you again...
 

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The whole inlaw thing would work if her dad was still married to her mom, and they don't get along at all they don't talk, I pretty much have all her in-laws on my side, but he won't listen to any of them, even his dad who sold him the business has told him to get us a new car and he won't listen.....he is just out to make a quick buck just like In2Deep pretty much said. I think the only thing i can do is just keep calling the place to come and get it when it breaks down.....well at least till the warranty runs out.....then i'm ****ed! lol Oh well the next car i'll buy will be from a real dealership.....and not her dad!!!
 

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Don't sell the method short..... He may be an especially hard core sleezebag but even sleezebags will not stand up to public familial humiliation. It is one thing for his father to say give you a new car, it is another to be completely humiliated and have his father jump in his shorts and tell him how disappointed he is with how he does business and how HE would never screw with HIS children like that.

If not and since it is not a new car, you don't have a lot of recourses. But if it has a warranty, why did he have to pay $2,300 for an engine? What kind of warranty did it have? Even the sucky Guardian Warranty covers and engine should it blow.
 
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