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So, here's the deal...

I'm looking for a gently used car for use as a 3rd vehicle. Given that I commute 250+ mile R/T daily, I'm not planning on replacing my 95 ES until it's dead on the highway. No sense racking up mileage on a new(er) car before I have to....

But, given that I need reliable transportation "every" day, and that I have a 15 year old who will be in Drivers Ed this fall, I plan to buy a 3rd car, just so I
(A) have one that runs and
(B) that she can drive if I don't need it...

Looking to spend $5k or less, probably, depending on model/age/mileage. I'll spend more for a vehicle if the mileage and/or maintenance merit it. Minimum requirements are:
1. ABS
2. 2nd Gen Airbags
3. Beyind that, all are negotiable....

Timing is also negotiable...I don't really need the car now...but want to have it 1 day before I do need it...(Ha!)

The "No-Brainer" decision would be to pick up a "PROGRAM" Car from one of the local dealers. for example, you can get a '01 Taurus for $10K any day of the week (except Sunday...) at any lot in town. While this is higher than the $5K bogey, it's within the range I can/will spend if necesssary.

So, there you have it....Any ideas or Questions, let me know...

Regards;

Cheddar:baaa:
 

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my suggestion would be to move closer to work ;)

250+ miles a day is brutal...you are spending 20% of your life just driving back and forth to work...

as far as a car since you have time, personally I would just shop around and wait for a deal...could probably get a nice 2nd gen ES for 5-10K if you wait for a deal.
 

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Well, could you be a little more specific for what you want and don't want in a vehicle because you are not giving much to work with here and I have heard many people say just any car will do, but when you start giving them the ultra-dependent, they say it's bad on gas, you show them one that is good on gas, they tell you it's expensive to repair, and so on....
 

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It's pretty obvious that saftey is a big concern for you.
I have 3 children and have the same concerns too.
ABS and air bags are definate life savers but I often find myself falling back on basic physics. Average car is just over 3000lbs, you will be safer in a 4000lbs vehicle.
Couple that pop up in my mind are Crown Victoria, Caprice but in snowy climates I'd avoid rwd for new drivers.
That leaves big fwd's like Park Ave, LHS, Olds 88 or an SUV.
 

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Well, you could get a caravan, because from what I understand you have kids. Or you could get a trep. If you didn't want to pay much go with first gen. Or if you want something else than dodge, go with the sedans. But going back to what axle said, you didn't give us much to work with. Since you want it for your 15 year old. Go with a first gen intrepid. It's auto of course, so you don't have to worry about teaching her how to shift and you can get them for super cheap. If you want it for you as well, get the es. But if you dont want your daughter to have a powerful car, go with the 2.7L se. But it will be hard to find one in decent shape.
 

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you guys are thinking way too hard on this. look for a geo prizm sedan from about 94-95. it's the same car as a corolla but without the toyota badge that makes it more expensive. my friend has a 94 5 speed with 155k on it and i pray that my intrepid runs as well as her car when it's at a similar mileage. she runs it hard, too.
 

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Yeah, dont you think he should stay mopar? I mean, what would you rather have? A dodge intrepid or a geo prizim? But then again, the prizim would be way cheaper.
 

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I realize that the request was open-ended...this was intentional. as I'm "all over the map" as to what to get. I have no brand preference. Safety is of greater import than speed/style, so a Volvo wins over a GEO. Heavier is OK, as this will mostly be for around-town motoring. Given that I hold the opinions of the members of DI.net in high regard, I figured I'd throw it out there and see what suggestions may come my way.

We have an SUV ('97 Expedition), a sedan (my '95 ES), and a convertible (project) ( a '61 Alpine) but I will need a car for the teen. I'm thinking Volvo, Taurus, Accord, Camry, Intrepid/Sebring/Stratus, etc...but would buy an Altima, a 4Runner, etc, if the right car came along.

Thanks again!

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I'm biased towards the LH cars. :biggrin:

We've had a Camry before and that was pretty reliable but as with any car you have to stick with the maintenance. I would avoid the Taurus. We have one now and on its best day it runs about as well as my Vision did when she had a bad O2 sensor and clogged IAC. :p Add in that the Taurus has already had a valve job and tranny replaced and it really makes it look bad.

Truthfully, any of the cars you listed (I'd make the Taurus my last choice though) would make a great car for your teen. Most of them, especially the Volvo and LH cars are quite safe. The only hesitation I might have would be with the Accord because of the fact that aftermarket "performance" parts are so readily available. With the whole peer pressure thing you might inadvertantly set the stage for her to become a *gulp* RICER!!! :crazy:
 

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Hey, why didn't you say that in the first place:p I would stay mopar if I were you. Volvo is good too. And also, this goes to vision, I am so sick of people automatically thinking "well if its honda its rice. there is nothing wrong with an accord. its the same fricken thing as a trep. 4 door sedan. the only difference is that the trep is more powerful stock and american. rice is stickers, aluminum wings, and stuff like that. rice is those rusted civics that have stickers and bodykits but no power, because they want looks. A "ricer" is someone that spends their money to make their car look fast and not spend it on mods to actually make it fast. If you have a 4 door sedan with 200 horse power or whatever, its not rice, unless you never bought a mod and it has stickers and huge spoilers that have no perpose at all! I'm glad I cleared that up.
 

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Actually Racer4hire, I agree with you. I'm not saying that because it's Honda it's rice -- if I came off that way it certainly was not my intention.

I was trying to say that I've seen what can potentially happen when you give a car that is popular to mod, with so many aftermarket options to a teenager; eventually all their friends start adding in their two cents (sometimes more than that), they see what all the other kids are doing, and before you know it they've got the huge wing, stickers everywhere, fart cannon exhaust, etc., even on an Accord. Of course not all teens are like this but it's something to think about and be aware of.
 

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No problem, although I thought thats what you meant....that all hondas are rice. But still, even thought there is potential to becoming a rice burner, there also is potential to be a costom street rod. You see, because of the huge aftermarket for this particular car, there is also a high chance that it could kick @$$, know what I'm sayin?
 

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I totally agree. Unfortunately, from what I've seen, most teenagers rarely take that route. It's a shame really. The Accord is a nice car with serious potential. :(
 

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True dat homie :p
 

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Dodge neons are a big thing around here. (Considering we have a chrysler plant 15 minutes from my house) my friend got his 01 neon for 2900 with 75k miles on it. There also easy ricers too for those kids wanting to deck a car out. Neons are not a bad choice and really fit your wants.
 

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a camry would do all the above....GF has a 91 with 198k on it...repalced the tranny fluid a few times..did oil regularly and flushed the radiator once. last time the tranny fluid was replacing was 10k ago at my request becuase it was greenish...yeah green try that in a A606 crap box. Ummm the timming belt finally snapped on her at 186k which is 3 times longer than the reccomended serivice interval. Other than that the car get 25mpg around town and has no accleration, but still has ice cold A/C and nice rust holes.

in 92 they changed the body styling and some of the other stuff. Once again...pretty much trouble free, same goes for the maximas and accords, civics...etc. I have seen some Neons be okay...but dont buy later than 98 as this is when they chaged the head design so that the damn things would quit blowing head gaskets like the old sandances
 

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Dude, just stay mopar.....
 

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If you wanna step up a little, get a used 300M. They are quite affordable on the used market. If your are fortunate to find one, grab a 2002 300M Special or a 2001 300M with Luxury Group. Our club thinks those are the two best ones made, although I'm still partial to my Platinum painted 1999 Car of Year with "Special" add-ons. :D
 

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99300mricva said:
If you wanna step up a little, get a used 300M. They are quite affordable on the used market. If your are fortunate to find one, grab a 2002 300M Special or a 2001 300M with Luxury Group. Our club thinks those are the two best ones made, although I'm still partial to my Platinum painted 1999 Car of Year with "Special" add-ons. :D
Well, those are two that I'm adding to my list of potential new cars.

I still am considering the new Accord, but I've decided that I'm not going to buy brand-new. Slightly-used is the way to go... no matter which car I choose.

I'm also considering 2002 Sebring coupes.. with the 3.0L V6.

EDIT: Is there anything specific to the 300M I should look for during the test drive?
 
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