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I'm looking to replace the tires on the R/T and was thinking of going to a stickier tire for summer use until October and then putting the Michelins back on for winter use. What does everyone recommend?
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BK, I have been thinking about using
NITTO's for my next set of tires on
my 2000 R/T. I have heard many good things about NITTO tires. I have also been thinking
about upgrading the tire size, but I think I will need new wheels since the stock R/T wheels are only 7" wide and any bigger tire
on these wheels would probably not look right. GOOD LUCK
 

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Thanks Cehasgr-I'm not that familiar with Nitto's but if it involves moving to a different rim than those maybe out of the question. I want to keep the car as close to stock as I can. I was thinking of either Pirelli's or Dunlops.
 

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I would steer away from most Dunlops. My tire shop has had a ton of those come back with cupped or chopped tread. Potenza makes a cool tire, the RE950 but I am not sure how much they cost. Check out this link http://www.tirerack.com/index.jsp
There are other good tires, but that is one directional, high perfomance tire that we recommend at my shop. You can punch in your vehicle and get a list of tires in your size

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Thanks jnutz- I used to have Dunlops on Lebaron GTS but I didn't have the car long enough with them on it. I sold it before I ran any serious mileage up on the new tires- I will definetely look at the site you recommended and the tires you suggested.
 

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I can tell you what I've had, but they were on a Grand Prix w/ 16" wheels...

I've had Michellin Pilot XGT-Z4's, and Bridgestone Potenza RE-730's. Both are Z-rated tires, but the Potenza's don't have the M+S endorsement (mud and snow) meaning that they put down more rubber per square inch, but they would be useless in the winter. Both make great rain tires, and are excellent performance tires.

I had the Pilots first, and when I got the Potenzas, I initially didn't like them as much. The sidewalls of the Potenzas aren't as stiff, so they feel sloppier in transitions from hard left to hard right and vice versa. At first, their traction limit seemed no better than that of the Pilots, and I didn't hook up any better at the drag strip like everyone on the GP forum said I would.

That all changed after my first autocross on the Potenzas. These tires are amazing! Since I got them "scrubbed in" there, they're performing alot better. The next time I went to the track, my 60' times dropped, indicating that I was in fact getting better traction for launches. It may be in my head, but I swear they stick better in corners now, too. At $94 per tire in my size, I'm quite pleased. For comparison, I paid $124/ea. for the pilots, and Nittos are somewhere in the neighborhood of $160 each. Definitely check out tirerack.com.
 

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Just looking at the tire rack site. They have a special on Firestones high performance.http://www.tirerack.com/tires/firestone/fs_sz50.jsp
These are last years design, about 150 or so retail for 49 plus like 8 bucks shipping. These are summer only thopugh
 

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Check out the new Falken Azenis. They've been getting a lot of good comments on an autocross list I'm part of. Although they don't have the same size as stock (225/60R16), they do have 220/50R16, which only changes the speedo a couple of miles per hour (about 5MPH slow at 60). You could also go +1, which will have the same speedo change, they also have a +2, but it will also probably be about the same.

I just hope that I can wear out these Goodyears pretty soon. I just hate to waste money on replacing something that still has some life left in them, even though the tires are noisy, rough, and lack traction.
 

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I run Dunlop sp8000 195 55zr 14's on my ACR Neon, GREAT TIRES!!! Just don't use them in the winter, I have winter tires for that. I have used Dunlop on many of my cars with no problems. They do make all season tires I'm sure, I am not in the market to buy new ones for my Intrepid R/T just yet. By the way, I have owned my R/T for about 3 weeks and have only seen three others at this time. One of them happens to be in my subdivion. The Michelin Pilot's that came with the car have been working very well so far!! I'm curious, where there any other tire options for the R/T then the Michelin's? :confused:
 

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Tire Rack recently had some Firestone SZ50 or something like that, $50 for 225.60.16 and in several 17" sizes too. They were 149mph+ rated, I believe. Driveon...
 

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Sorry N'BOGU- I haven't bought the new tires yet, still checking on what to get. I may go to the Michelin Pilot XGT V4's since they are what I had on my Firebird and those tires had a really aggressive pattern and were a great all around tire. I had a blowout today and priced a new tire that was originally on the car at $213.00 a piece. I was lucky that I had a full size spare to get me home.
 

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well im in the same boat. course in my case its not a matter of WANT new tires. matter of NEED new tires. was washing the rims on the inside and when i took em off i noticed the tires were wearing funny. the insides were worn down more than anywhere else. i took the car down to a garage and asked for an alignment. got my car back and nope ... not the alignment. the tires are just garbage. so online i go to do some reading. narrowed down to 2 choices for me anyway. michelin x-ones. which everyone and there mother seems to recommend. not really a "performance tire" but supposedly a fantastic all year tire with some incredible treadwear rating. the other set. bridgestone potenza re950. this is a directional tire. performance minded. half the treadwear of the michelin but still in contention.
tirerack.com has both and in their rating system the re950s are a better tire overall according to them. which ones ill go with. i just dont know yet. how many corners am i going to be taking at 90kmh ? probably none.
how many km am i gonna be putting on the car ? probably alot. looks wise. i really like the re950. practically tho. the michelins are probably going to be my choice for the treadwear rating. just cuz i dont want to buy tires in a year or so cuz theyve worn down already.
just my 2 cents. :p
 

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I may go to the Michelin Pilot XGT V4's
I just bought the XGT H4's and they have been great so far.. I was just wondering why you would go for the V rating which is more expensive when the car won't go any faster than 120? And how often are you going to be going that fast anyways.. I guess you may get a little bit of a performance advantage, but I also haven't looked into the price difference so I can't really say too much ;) Anyways, The XGT's are a great tire if thats what you go with.
 

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Typically, V and Z-rated tires are *cheaper* than their H-rated counterparts. The only reason I can figure is because of the prorated warranty issues. Most z-rated tires come with little or no warranty when it comes to treadwear. Whereas touring tires are warrantied to somewhere around 60,000 miles or more. Also, with a Z-rated or V-rated tire, you usually get a stiffer sidewall for better cornering and feedback (at the cost of comfort and road noise).

CARBONFYBR,

Were all of your tires worn more on the inside than the outsides, or just the tires on one axle (just fronts/just rears). Even if your tires are junk, the insides shouldn't be wearing first. Hard cornering will make the outsides of the fronts wear faster, and burnouts will obviously make the drive tires wear faster. Overinflation or too wide of a tire for your rim will make the centers wear faster, and underinflation will cause the outsides of the treads (on both sides) wear faster. All other uneven wear issues can ONLY be attributed to out of tolerance alignment. Before you buy new tires and wear the insides down on those as well, take your car to a different alignment shop and tell them to pay special attention to the "toe". When properly aligned, your tires should 'toe in' slightly toward the front. It's usually only about 1/4" difference between the with of the fronts of the tires and the width of the rears of the tires (hard to explain), but it allows the wheels to run straight at speed because they will tend to be pulled outward.
If you still don't understand, see illistration below and keep in mind that the angle of the tires are exxagerated for effect (and because I'm too lazy to make a real illustration)


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[ August 13, 2001: Message edited by: 2KWK4U ]
 

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Well I've been an alignment tech at my job for 8 months now. I set the alignments on our testing cars to factory specs... And it seems to me that your problem is in the Toe and Camber. if the camber is out, then that would make it wear on the inside of the tire, the toe will also... ;)

[ August 20, 2001: Message edited by: 01Intrepid ]
 

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I would have someone check your front end with the tires on a set of turn plates. Sometimes if the inner tie rods are worn they can not be felt with the weight off the tires. Intrepids are infamous for inners and the left outer tierod going out. These should be checked carefully. I would almost guarranty that this is what is causing your tire wear. Also the Intrepid has rear toe factory adjustable, and rear camber is adjustable with a special kit that you can order. The only time you should have to worry about the camber is if you lower the car. Oh and I always toe the cars out just a hair more than factory recommended center. I have had a whole lot less cars comeback since I started this than when I centered them perfectly. Been aligfning cars for 2.5 years so I still don't know all there is to about it though.
 

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alrighty then. first thing. they were wearing unevenly on the front only 2KWK4U. passenger side moreso than the drivers. id say an 8th of an inch difference from the outside to the inside. i have NO idea what shape the tires were in when i bought the car. i should have paid more attention at that point. i dont corner hard often. very rarely actually. ive never done a burnout in my car. respect my car too much. i will try another shop and mention the toe like you suggested. thanks :)
as for my tire choices. the re950s are 20 bucks CHEAPER per tire than the x-ones like 2KWK4U suggested. whether speed rating is the reason, i can only assume hes correct. sure sounds like a good reason to me tho. the only reason i chose the v rated ones is price and the ratings at tirerack.com. ahead of the x-ones in every catergory except treadwear.
as for the xgt's not to rain on anyones parade, if youre happy with them, cool. but a friend of mine has them on a 2000 stratus and has been cursing them since the 3rd week he owned them. lucky if he has a year on them and well, looks like hes gonna need new ones by summers end. practically bald. not exactly an endorsement for them. the way i drive my car and the weather in and around here, the x-ones are looking more and more like my choice. after that alignment check of course ;)
thanks for the advice guys.
 
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