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Went to AAMCO last week and Cottman this week. Cottman had the better deal but still told me that there is definitely contaniment in the pan, the trans oil is running hotter than normal and that there are leaks in the cooling lines.

They also recommend, no surprise here, a rebuilt ($1450 12mo/12,000 mile). They are also going to replace one of the O2 sensors (upstream)...no charge for the labor but I pay for the part. Said everything else, mounts, idler arms, etc all looked fine.

Unfortunately, it is paid off next month (or was) and we need to go on vacation at the beginning of August and have to drive about 500-600 miles. I guess the $1450 is better than years of payments.


This has the A-606(42LE) transmission and I was just wondering if I was lucky to get the 100k out of it or is this unusual?

Your thoughts?
 

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I would replace the lines and do a flush. If the filter and fluid haven't been changed in a while, that might make it run hotter than normal.
 

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Replace the lines. ($65 or so...)

Flush the entire system and change the filter. ($150-$200)

Add an auxilliary Trans oil cooler. ($100) (If you have an earlier 1Gen Intrepid)

Refill it with +3 or +4 Trans Oil from the Dealer...don't forget that, with the aux cooler, you will require add'l fluid to balance the system.

Spend the other $1K on vacation!

Cheddar
 

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I have a working tranny laying around...
 

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I can't say enough good things about the suggestions that chedderhad recommended. The tranny flush was a huge improvemnt on our lhs which the lady sold to us with the knowledcge that something was "just not right" with the tranny. flushing and refilling with the RIGHT atf-3 fluid made a huge difference.
 

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Cheddarhead said:
Replace the lines. ($65 or so...)

Flush the entire system and change the filter. ($150-$200)

Add an auxilliary Trans oil cooler. ($100) (If you have an earlier 1Gen Intrepid)

Refill it with +3 or +4 Trans Oil from the Dealer...don't forget that, with the aux cooler, you will require add'l fluid to balance the system.

Spend the other $1K on vacation!
Cheddar
(That would be a great idea).

They said that there was contamination in the pan. Think that Cottman would do ONLY the work I request. I don't have the time or mechanical expertise to do this but my daughter's boyfriend might????

Any detailed instructions that can be found on this procedure? I have a 1996, so I believe that is a 1st gen.
 

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I have a working tranny laying around...
I wonder how much shipping a tranny to Central Pa would be and just in case PM me with the information including what you want for the tranny.
 

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Hartski said:
I would replace the lines and do a flush. If the filter and fluid haven't been changed in a while, that might make it run hotter than normal.
Apparently Cheddar thinks the same. Shouldn't the filter be replaced too? Think this could be a simpler solution and I intend to look into it.

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Cheddarhead said:
Replace the lines. ($65 or so...)

Flush the entire system and change the filter. ($150-$200)

Add an auxilliary Trans oil cooler. ($100) (If you have an earlier 1Gen Intrepid)

Refill it with +3 or +4 Trans Oil from the Dealer...don't forget that, with the aux cooler, you will require add'l fluid to balance the system.

Spend the other $1K on vacation!

Cheddar
Any good locations (online or stores) to get all the parts from or just the local Dodge dealer (that will be higher priced for sure)?
 

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Other than the lines, Jiffy Lube(or comparable establishment) should be able to change the filter and flush the system.
 

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I wonder what would happen if I went back to Cottman and just asked to do the work that Cheddar and you suggest? Think I would get a bunch of bullshit?
 

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I would not have jiffy lube do the flush and fill.. I would only have the dealer do itt. Also i made an error with my post, i meant to say that I had my fluid replaced with atf-4 not atf-3.

Go to your local chrysler dealer, they charge more, but it will be worth it.

I think jiffy lube just uses what it says to use in the owner's manaul, and my owners manual says taht even dextron is usable in my tranny, however it is actually bad for the tranny.. I called jiffy lube and they said that "we use the manufacturer's recommend fluid" and when I pushed for more info, he just wasn't sure.

So if you want to save 30 to 50 bux, go to Jiffy Lube, but I don't recommend it.
 

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This is one instance where you want the dealer service, if only for the "proper" fluid.

If they (the dealer) give you an outrageous quote for the aux cooler...have this installed at your local tranny shop or A/C shop. that work is pretty straightforward. Do this "before" you have the tranny flushed and filled!!!!

Even changing the trans filter is easy...no more difficult than changing your oil, except that you have to unbolt the pan. It's a little messy, too...

Recognize that, even if you frop the pan, you're only getting 3-4 quarts of fluid out...a complete flush/fill will run 11 quarts or so...more if you add the aux cooler. That's what you "really" want to do!!!

The dealer can do 2 very important things for you.
1. Supply the proper fluid. Use only the Factory +3 or +4 oil. The dealer will probably say "+3" 'cause that was factory-spec when the car was new. Either will work.
2. The dealer can also dump the codes and re-flash any new/improved software into your tranmission control module. Smoother shifts!

Good Luck, and enjoy!

Cheddar
 

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sounds like I need to make some calls tomorrow. Will try to get quotes first on the aux fan and I might check with a friend who works on cars to see if we can do this too.

I will let you know.
 

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Aux. cooler is like another radiator only smaller and usually installed in front of the a/c condensor.I have about 140,000 miles on my 93 and don't have a cooler,but I know alot of people recommend it.I don't do alot of long distance driving,and I also service my own vehicle being that I run a shop for a used car dealer.I service the tranny every 20-25k miles and flush every 50k with our BG system.I am only using the +3 and add 2 bottles of anti-foam when I service it.After 140k I have only replaced the input sensor and the solenoid shift pack.Good luck.
 

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I looked and there is one aux cooler already but it doesn't look like it is hooked up to the tranny. I have to get under the car tomorrow. It is starting to look more like a good old flush and filter to me.

Cottman and AAMCO are rip-offs for the most part. The Cottman guy would never say that I was getting a "rebuilt" tranny, he kept saying that he would try to "salvage" what he could. I have the feeling that they would flush and filter and then take the gamble that my car would not go down within the next 12 months. If that was the case, they make a cool $1000+.

Thanks for the advise.
 

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Just remember, get the flush done ONLY at the Chrysler/Dodge dealer and NOWHERE else and doing just a pandrfop/filter swap in your own garage is not the same thing at all!

As for your comment about the cottman (have no idea what cottman is anyway) guy saying that he would salvage what is there, I have to agree, thats exactly what it sounds like, he would do a flush and fill and call it good and hope for the best for the next 12 months.

I have heard that is common practice in a lot of tranny shops. If your car comes back 6 months later, its not like they are going to lose money, they already got your grand, now they can actually put it together.
 

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Why only at a Chrysler/Dodge shop? The local Firestone and I talked and he says they use ATF+4 on Dodges. Would it be that they don't know what they are doing or do you believe that only C/D can do the flush and fill and filter properly?

Just curious as to why you recommend on Chrysler/Dodge?
 
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