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8" subs are for girls.....if you would compare something to a sub, it would be assumed to use a 10"-12" sub....I doubt there are any 6x9's out there that could make my side mirrors rattle

also..... a single 6x9 takes up approx. 42.4 square inches(without considering variations due to depth of speaker) and a 8" sub takes up 50.2 square inches(also without considering depth)....the sub is 15.5% larger

single 10" sub takes up 78.5 square inches--46% larger than 6x9

single 12" sub takes up 113.0 square inches--63% larger than 6x9

the majority of us here with subs have either 10's or 12's ... i know that by the pure definition of subwoofer a 6x9 could technically fit the definition, but 2 6x9's simply don't compare to the bass levels produced by 2 12" subs

[ December 19, 2001: Message edited by: gary680 ]

That's not necessarily true. I've got friends that know a lot about systems and thought I had a couple 8"' subs for factory, at least mine do. They're not slammin but they hit. I wouldn't make fun of Wallmart cause my friend had a 500 Watt generic amp he bought from there, hooked it up to his Cerwin-Vega 15" sub in his Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited and hit hella hella hard, I mean slammin. I laughed and didn't beleive he got it at Wallmart but he did. Trust me if what I have didn't hit pretty good, I would have gotten an after market system by now. Of course it doesn't hit like a pro system, it's not really supposed to. I like it loud and it sounds pretty good if you set the EQ and fader right. 6x9"s can be setup as subs if they are not two or three way but usually cannot handle the low frequency a 10", 12" or 15" can handle.

I have seen 6.5", and 5.25" subs, of course no there not real subs but they are setup for bass and low frequencies, same principal and similar properties as a subwoofer, basically subs. Saying that there are no 6x9's that are subs is saying that there are no 6x9's that can produce heavy bass. My rear 6x9's produce heavy bass about the bass that most 8"'s produce. Understandably can not produce as much bass as a good 10", 12", 15" or 18" subwoofer but it doesn't mean that a 6x9 cannot be setup to function as a subwoofer, crossed over at low, bass producing frequencies thus being a subwoofer. I think the distinguishment we should start to make is "sub" and "true sub".

Speaking of 8"'s, not all 8"'s are weak. I had some 8" Cerwin-Vega's that hit so hard when they were in my room it seemed like my windows were gonna come down. My friend had some 8" MTX's in his little Honda CRX and they hit hella hard, everyone thought they were like 12"'s.

My rear speakers actually do make my mirrors rattle on my 99 ES. Speakers that are not subs do not usually hit that hard. My side mirrors rattle and my rearview mirror rattles but obviously not even close to my friends 15" Cerwin-Vega as expected.



Later guys,
MoparPerformance

[ December 19, 2001: Message edited by: MoparPerformance ]

subs subs subs, its always the subs

look here

I had a pair of pioneer 6*9s that hit down to 30hz and them ****ers rattled the rear view and side mirrors of my car with about 45w goin to them. I used them to get by until I could get some 12s. Do they bump like my 12s? Hell no! But they bumped none the less, and more then a few people wanted to know where I had the sub hidden.


6*9s or subs, what ever makes you happy. My system is set up to please ME, to set it up any other way would be a waste.

dam, anuther 2 cents spent

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