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Alrighty guys pretty much looking into getting a new car around the end of april/begining of may unless i see something that i cant refuse.

Heres the lowdown. i can afford about 300 a month at the most (preferably closer to 200 a month) payment. im looking to have about 1500 to put down with maybe up to about 3,000 down depending on how we work a few things out and if my dad says he wants to throw some money in. so im figuring only on 1500 right now so i dotn et my hopes to high. New or used it depends, used i dont want anything with more then about 25k miles on it. so far ive come across quite a few good deals, on mustangs (some v8's as well) and couple other things, but other then that its whatever i see in the ad's Car dealerships websites.Right now i would need my dad to cosign because i have no credit and also so that im still under his insurance. Currently however through my dads work (UPS) he gets 2% above ford employee discount on any ford product, and 4% above what employee's pay for GM product, and theres a different dodge deal on a diffrent car every month. here's what im looking into right now.


2005 Chevy coblat coupe 1SB. MSRP 17,805 with sunroof, 5 Speed manual, 2.2 ecotec, sport package power everything A/c. Smart buy for 194 a month with the option to finance the 8,000 after 48 months or trade it in for a new car. or 285 a month for a traditional finace at 3% (which i prob. wont get)


(SS interior but the only differnece is the boost gauge and the red seats)


2005 Neon SXT Fully loaded with SRT design package with 5 speed manual MSRP 17,1XX and my dad said dodge gave UPS a deal to get it for about 13,1XX.

no SRT design package photo i could find


i like the car but at only 132HP at the crank its kinda sad, not to mention it has the NGC which from what i hear limits power a decent amount to save wear on the engine :hang:

any other suggetions would be greatley appreciated.

Yes im still coming to carlisle, however i may or may not be looking for a ride to the showfield depending on the manufacturer car i get.

im thinking of an 04 or 05 mini cooper but i cant get the financing calculater to work for the mini select option. but i think its an option so i'll throw that in the ring too. but it wuold be a stock Mini Cooper






if i had to pick right now it would be between the cooper and the cobalt.





*update* Definitley become extrmely intereseted in the Mazda3 idk if i like the 5 door or sedan , either one would have the 2.3 liter 160hp motor. any comments on this one?






 

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Between those, I'd take the Cooper in a heartbeat. Also because I wouldn't buy a Chevy to save my life. (Except maybe a Vette)

The Cooper is a cool little car and certainly stands out in its class, imo. How big a car do you want? The ones you listed here are considered "small" like Corolla, Civic etc.
 

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Although I am going to get blasted by people who judge a car on its name rather than its merits, here is my suggestion:

2005 Hyundai Elantra GT

Come as a four door sedan or five door hatch.

A very fun, very tossable, very safe and very reliable car to own.

Out the door price with every single option: $16,739. That is before any rebates/discounts/dealer incentives. Not to mention the excellent warranty. If you want to save a couple grand, the Elantra GLS hatch has the exact same suspension set-up as the GT, but you lose some of the creature comforts, like the leather seats. If you want real world opinions on Hyundai's quality talk to me or DMAG or checkout elantraxd.com.

Specs

Engine

* 2.0L DOHC 16-valve inline-4-cylinder engine with Continuously Variable Valve Timing (CVVT)
* Iron engine block, aluminum cylinder head
* Electronically controlled fuel injection
* 138 hp @ 6,000 rpm
* 136 lb-ft. of torque @ 4,500 rpm

Transmission

* Standard 5-speed manual transmission

Exterior

* 15-inch steel wheels with full wheel covers
* Michelin® all-season tires
* Halogen headlights
* Front fog lights
* Color-keyed bodyside & bumper moldings
* Tinted glass
* Power-adjustable, heated outside mirrors
* Variable intermittent windshield wipers
* Rear disc brakes
* Sport-tuned suspension
* Sport-tuned steering
* Rear spoiler

Interior

* Air conditioning
* Power windows with driver's one-touch auto-down
* Power door locks
* 5-passenger seating
* Front bucket seats
* Driver-seat adjustable lumbar support
* Leather seating surfaces
* Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
* Dual cupholders, front and rear
* Front center armrest with dual-level storage compartment
* Overhead map lights
* 60/40 split fold-down rear seatback
* Rear window defroster with timer
* Digital clock
* Remote fuel-filler door release
* Remote trunk release (4-door models)
* Cruise control

Audio

* AM/FM stereo and CD player with 6 speakers, 100 watts

Safety & Security

* Dual front airbags
* Front seat-mounted side-impact airbags
* 3-point front seat belts with pre-tensioners, force limiters and adjustable-height shoulder-belt anchors
* 3-point rear seat belts, including rear-center position Rear-seat LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children) system for securing a child-restraint seat
* Front and rear crumple zones
* Side-door guard beams
* Energy-absorbing steering column
* Hood buckling creases with safety stops
* Remote keyless entry system with alarm

Pic of Elantra GT hatchback with lowering springs and aftermarket wheels

 

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Mini Cooper, fun to drive, very safe (BMW) and way better than having a renamed cavalier. I wouldn't go with the neon because of what you stated earlier Curt. Wish I could get a Cooper as a second car. Nice lil' car :fun_08: The Elantra GT is not a bad choice at all either. That would be my second choice.
 

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Cooper is good. If you are going to get a Neon do it right and get the SRT4
 

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if i could afford the srt4 or the Tc i prob. wouldnt havent even made tihs post lol. their both just a little out of my price range.
 

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I agree with Matt, hyundai's aren't as bad as they used to be, can't beat the warranty either.
as for SRT-4's, try this
 

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It looks like you are trying to be financially responsible. Good. My opinion, for what it is worth, buy a used car. Don't get stuck with the first year(first second really) depreciation a new vehicle suffers when it gets bought.

***NEW*** is a hard temptation to resist. Especially if it will be your first new car. If this is your first new car, go ahead and get a new one, and get it out of your system. Used is a better choice financially.

When you are picking your car, look at reliability. Also I wouldn't try the Cobalt - it's too new. It will take a few years to get it right
 

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the entire platform isnt new, its been used on the ION which had a few quirks that seems like they have been worked out, belive me im actually leaning more towards used, i just didnt want to post up them because by the time im ready to buy in a month or so they wont be for sale anymore most likely. but another thing, arent intrest rates on used cars higher? and my dad was trying to tell me that if i want to buy a car for 10k from a private seller, that the bank will not let me finance the full 10k, like they need 20% or something first.
 

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interest rates are a bit higher, yes. but you'll still save a ton of money. and for christ sakes, don't buy a GM, ever. And it depends on what bank you finance with, and how good your credit is.
 

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i alreday told you about the neon. an SXT with a 5 speed runs just as fast as an intrepid r/t with that pathetic 132 hp. Yes, it has NGC, yes NGC sucks for mods, but in reality, what kind of modifications that the NGC doesn't like are YOU going to want to make to a brand new car with a warranty?
 

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That's not bad.....you get what you want man, not what people wants. You are the one paying it afterall. Looks like a good deal, considering it's not stock.
 

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does anyone know if the Dodge warranty will transfer on it? (the 7/70 one or any of the other warrantys?) i know some company have free transfer to 2nd owner but some cost $$.
 

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i alreday told you about the neon. an SXT with a 5 speed runs just as fast as an intrepid r/t with that pathetic 132 hp. Yes, it has NGC, yes NGC sucks for mods, but in reality, what kind of modifications that the NGC doesn't like are YOU going to want to make to a brand new car with a warranty?
Naww trust me, an SXT will NOT keep up with an R/T. My girlfriend has a 2004 SXT stick, and she can't come anywhere close to me. (And she's decent on the clutch too.) Even with the best driver, theres just no way. I put way too much room between us off the line, at a roll, and on the highway for the Neon to ever have a chance. Its especially not good at highway speeds. She always tries passing me at WOT and I'll wait for her to get next to me, pound the pedal, and in 3 seconds, shes in the rearview. And yes, she IS racing me. Its my girlfriend, not some jackass on the highway. I've driven it plenty of times, and for 132 HP, it has a decent amount of pickup, but you'll be happier running with Civics than V6's. IMO, go with only a Neon R/T (150hp) if you can still find one on a lot, or *dream* an SRT. I actually looked at one about a month ago, and I got the payments to around $215ish. I don't remember how long, but it was like 3 or 4 years. But I'd plan on having the car that long anyway so for me, that wasn't an issue.
 
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