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news article what do you think 
Whats your take on this?????
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I think it's a load of crap. I haven't read the article, but someone was mentioning it. If I understood it correctly, the Intrepid they used was the SE version, while the other models (like the Accord) were the top line models. The article you have the link to Otto says that the Japaneese cars beat the American cars in 0-60 times, well, show me an Accord that can beat my R/T (unmodded of course)! It sounds like that C&D review was heavily biase towards the imports.
I subscribe to C&D and the magazine is heavily biased towards Honda, Toyota, and BMW. They used a 2.7 Intrepid, a decent car, but nowhere near as nice as an Intrepid can get.
I bought my R/T because it came with a V-6 and moved out on the road. I could care less about "road noise," or the availability of a 4-banger. Come on!!
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I bought my R/T because it came with a V-6 and moved out on the road. I could care less about "road noise," or the availability of a 4-banger. Come on!!
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That article did have a couple of good points. Chevy really needs to drop the Malibu. There is no point to build an Impala and a Malibu. You are killing your own copetition.... kinda like the Chrysler LHS and Concorde. Build one car and make the one car a better car.
I also agree to the fact that C&D is VERY biased because they compare the base Intrepid with the top of the line Accord. There is no way I would take a V6 Accord over my R/T.
I did laugh though when the article said about the Buick Regal "They are still making these".
Plus all those cars, with the exception of the Altima, look crappy. The Camry... ehhhhh jury is still out on that.
I also agree to the fact that C&D is VERY biased because they compare the base Intrepid with the top of the line Accord. There is no way I would take a V6 Accord over my R/T.
I did laugh though when the article said about the Buick Regal "They are still making these".
Plus all those cars, with the exception of the Altima, look crappy. The Camry... ehhhhh jury is still out on that.
I wouldn't call the Regal GS crappy. Same 3.8 II engine found in the Pontiac Grand Prix GTP and Bonneville SSEi. That means 240 s/c horses. In a slightly lighter package as well.
Oh, and the LHS was similar to the Concorde only in the 1st generation. In 2G the LHS and the 300M are twins, seperate from the 'Corde which is an Intrepid cousin.
Oh, and the LHS was similar to the Concorde only in the 1st generation. In 2G the LHS and the 300M are twins, seperate from the 'Corde which is an Intrepid cousin.
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The backend of the 2G LHS has curves more similiar to the Concorde than does the 300M. I always thought that if a Concorde and a 300M were to mate, you'd get a LHS.
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The writer is right about the Dolby road noise. I thought that comment was pretty funny. The rest is comparing their "big" V-6 to our "little" 2.7L. I'll put my '01 R/T 3.5L up against any of those cars. And styling? The Intrepid looks fast and mean, those imports look like... well... imports. C&D just lost some credibility with me.
how could they rate the hyundai above all the american cars? at least the dodge got better than the rest of the domestics
C&D is the most biased magazine i've ever had the displeasure of reading. i used to subscribe to them, i stopped when they started leaning towards the jap autos.
C&D is the most biased magazine i've ever had the displeasure of reading. i used to subscribe to them, i stopped when they started leaning towards the jap autos.
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Hey MoparHead, don't be dissin' my 2.7L Intrepid! Just because some of us cannot afford the insurance on the Intrepid R/T doesn't relegate the 2.7L Intrepid down to the status of simply a "decent" car.
On a different note, that article is bullsh!t for all the reasons everyone has pointed out already. They compared apples to oranges. I never really liked Car and Driver... but now they have absolutely NO hope of seeing a subscription from me.
Just because some of us cannot afford the insurance on the Intrepid R/T doesn't relegate the 2.7L Intrepid down to the status of simply a "decent" car. On a different note, that article is bullsh!t for all the reasons everyone has pointed out already. They compared apples to oranges. I never really liked Car and Driver... but now they have absolutely NO hope of seeing a subscription from me.
You have me all wrong!
I was just tryin' to say that for the sake of the magazine article they used a base Intrepid versus the high-level imports. Not really fair comparing apples and oranges, is it?
Insulting anyone or their cars was my last intention. I was trying to point out the bias present in the article.
FYI - I got a really, really, really good deal (used) on the R/T. That is the only reason why it is sitting in my driveway.
Sorry if I came off like I was trying to dis anyone. I wasn't.
I was just tryin' to say that for the sake of the magazine article they used a base Intrepid versus the high-level imports. Not really fair comparing apples and oranges, is it?
Insulting anyone or their cars was my last intention. I was trying to point out the bias present in the article.
FYI - I got a really, really, really good deal (used) on the R/T. That is the only reason why it is sitting in my driveway.
Sorry if I came off like I was trying to dis anyone. I wasn't.
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Im in the same boat as you!Originally posted by 00ChryslerIntrepid:
Hey MoparHead, don't be dissin' my 2.7L Intrepid!
...beings as im only 18 (19 by the time i trade-in) so when i get my second gen i wont be able to afford insurance on anything but the 2.7L
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Thanks, MoparHead.
Yeah, pimped3point3, I'm in a similar situation. I'm only 21, so my insurance rates are still very high.
Yeah, pimped3point3, I'm in a similar situation. I'm only 21, so my insurance rates are still very high.
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Gotta say I agree with everyone else. Not comparing vehicles that are on the same level is an unfair advantage. I belive that all the American models would have scored higher if the top line models were used against the imports. I am happy to see the 'Trep as the top in American made vehicles, just too bad the test was conducted poorly.
On a side note to vent, I hate how everyone supports the imports because of thier superior quality to American made. Our gov't is the problem in allowing so much imported steel along with allowing our manufactures to have layoffs. There are more people per vehicle working on imports than in the US, bringing me to the point that they have more hands on, making sure that nothing less than superior gets produced. It is not to the fault of our manufactures as they just can't keep up with the low cost and understaffed work force that the other companies do not have to contend with. Right now LTV Steel in Cleveland is trying to shutdown its operations, putting thousands out of there jobs and hurting an already poor economy in the city, not to mention right in the holiday season. We need to back our labor force, support them, and get the car manufactures to buy more domestic steel. Cut down on imports, increase exports, and buy American.
On a side note to vent, I hate how everyone supports the imports because of thier superior quality to American made. Our gov't is the problem in allowing so much imported steel along with allowing our manufactures to have layoffs. There are more people per vehicle working on imports than in the US, bringing me to the point that they have more hands on, making sure that nothing less than superior gets produced. It is not to the fault of our manufactures as they just can't keep up with the low cost and understaffed work force that the other companies do not have to contend with. Right now LTV Steel in Cleveland is trying to shutdown its operations, putting thousands out of there jobs and hurting an already poor economy in the city, not to mention right in the holiday season. We need to back our labor force, support them, and get the car manufactures to buy more domestic steel. Cut down on imports, increase exports, and buy American.
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