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New to the forums...nice to know there are some intrepid experts here
to start off this is what i have:
1996 Dodge Intrepid 3.3L
I want to customize my exhaust to get it to sound as much as a V8 as possible
my plan to do this was to go true dual pipes (but im no expert)
im willing to modify from the exhaust manifolds out completely so what ever works for the best results. Thanks

Steve
 
Put straight pipes on it. That's what I have and it sounds like a v8 ...at idle. As for the rest of the rpm range ...good luck!
 
The only reason the v6 sounds like a v8 at idle is because the exhaust is pulsing through the system at the same rate so it reaches your ear very similarly. At anything above idle the number of pulses for the v8 is more than the v6 so it sounds different. Its nearly impossible to get it to sound correctly. I'm sure if you have a degree in exhaust system design and a LOT of spare time you could do it. but for the average joe, I'd just look for an exhaust system that sounds good to you and go for it. Personally I love my straight pipes, its a very unique sound.
 
do you have an audio clip of them dave?
 
Yeah, like I have that kind of technology! I've been trying to coordinate an audio recording of my exhaust since I signed up here but I was never able to do it ...till now. But of course my car isnt running right now so I still got nothing. Sorry. Maybe next year!
 
Keep in mind that 3.2L is sohc and your 3.3L is ohv. Some people dont agree but I maintain that makes a big difference in sound! If you like the way that sounds then go for it! Just be aware that it wont sound identical.
 
Many things affect the sound of an engine.

I have heard a LOT of engines, each one has a unique tone, a Ford 4.6 modular sounds different than a Chevy 350, etc.

The 3.3 will never sound like a V8 to a trained ear. You can get close though, the sound depends on several things. The longer the pipes, the deeper the sound if all other things are equal. The more displacement, the deeper the tone as well, that's why I say a V6 with 3.3L will never sound like an average Chevy 5.7L V8. The more displacement, the more gas flow in the exhaust if all other things are equal.

To get a louder sound, remove the resonator and use a single muffler on each bank of cylinders. Beware that this will shift the power band of your engine up and reduce torque, hence the reason I am not a fan of true duals on anything less than a 4.0L engine unless some sort of forced induction is used unless top end HP is of paramount importance (top speed in exchange for less take off).

The valve train also changes sound. Multi valve engines like the 2.7, 3.2 and 3.5L will have a more refined sound than OHV 2 valve engines like the 3.3. This difference that the valve train makes is why a Lamborghini sounds different (and in my opinion, better) than a Camaro. I LOVE the sound of an LS1 Camaro.... but I get a chill down my spine when an Italian supercar whizzes by at full tilt!

Lastly, the number of cylinders affect sound as well. A 5.0L V10 Lamborghini engine sounds WAY different than a 5.0L Ford engine. The Lambo has a multi valve head and 2 extra cylinders, so it sounds different. The exhaust is different, but even if they were the same, the two engines would still sound different due to the other reasons listed.
 
(That does sound good, and familiar. I'd know that sound anywhere! That car belongs to Travis aka Mr. Dodge.)


I knew it was from this site
 
i've never got a V8 sound (nor do i want one) out of any of my exhaust experiments...mainly cuz i have my '79 Malibu if i wanna hear a V8 ;)

anyways, here are a few clips of my 3.3s...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/wm/2ad4965c-6d0a-4ed3-91b5-984801167e80.htm

my last exhaust on my van before being parted out, & i think one of the best sounding ones, kinda has hints of Supra & Skyline, yet with pushrod growl :)
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/wm/26fb4701-9454-4ab4-aff9-982000f6699f.htm -alot of revs cuz my mother was backing down the driveway & i was trying to get her to rev too, lol, she didn't...

the old straight exhaust...
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/wm/ce9af7af-c7c7-47ba-9042-980601853b4f.htm

my old flowmaster set up...
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/da15460b-c99a-4149-b2e4-f3687ac08621.htm

theres more if you poke around all my videos on there

but you'll never get a V8 sound, you can get close to one during start up & idle, as soon as a V6 climbs into the revs, its V6 note comes out

-greg
 
Hey, I have to do the exhaust on my mom's '97 caravan. Could you send me some tips, tricks, pics, etc...? Unfortunately, she got stuck with the 3.0 mitsu engine. But, I've been slowly convincing my friend with a 3000gt vr4 to "borrow" me his heads, manifolds, turbos, etc...
No, I'm not insane ...most days! :flame:
 
hardwareguy said:
Lastly, the number of cylinders affect sound as well. A 5.0L V10 Lamborghini engine sounds WAY different than a 5.0L Ford engine. The Lambo has a multi valve head and 2 extra cylinders, so it sounds different. The exhaust is different, but even if they were the same, the two engines would still sound different due to the other reasons listed.
It's in how many cylinders are firing too. It's why the Viper has exhaust treatment because it sounding like crap.
 
I want to actually hear my car( its a 3.3 too!) when its running, so i decided to cut off my stock muffler, and replace it with the lingest cherry bomb i could get. I decided not to do duals because my gas tank wasnt centered, so one side would have alot more bends in the piping. the cherry bomb cost $26, and the bends, and adapters costed like $25 too, i got all the parts at checker auto parts. it sounds awsome also. I made a 3inch square tip on thats cut at a 45 degree too so it looks pretty cool too. when its idling its got that deep rumble, and when u rev it up its got some back talk too.
 
hey chewie...lookie here \/\/\/

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/765554/1

i should warn you i had an '05 exhaust i had cut up for the hangers & the front slip fit connection, also i did it this way so i didn't have to hack up the old exhaust, so for any reason i can slip the old exhaust back on without any issues :)

but its pretty straight forward, very easy to do, no bends really needed, unless you want something fancy

i'm actully thinking of getting some dual oval tips for her to change it up, i dunno yet...


-greg
 
Not going to happen.

Cross plane crank V8s fire unevenly on their banks.
L R L L R L R R
V6s
L R L R L R
Flat plane crank V8s-ferrari, etc.
L R L R L R L R
V10s
L R L R L R L R L R
V12s
LRLRLRLRLRLR
 
stevo said:
If i wanna do a single-in double-out flowmaster 40, can someone give me a sketch or design of how i can run 2 pipes out the back? just something simple i can base my idea from. thanks
Pipe from over the axle going into the inlet, then running one pipe straight out the back, the other one having a 90 degree bend, going over to the other side, another 90 degree bend letting you run it straight out the back on the other side.

It's not that hard... there are plenty of ways to do it. Just sit down and draw it out, maybe you'll come up with a better way.
 
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